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That has wondered me as well.

And? If I was Managing Director, then I would stick with my own country. That's not to say I wouldn't have US, or any other currency, I just don't believe they should be default.

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Originally Posted by Jase2 (Post 1515278)

And? If I was Managing Director, then I would stick with my own country. That's not to say I wouldn't have US, or any other currency, I just don't believe they should be default.

That's why James Edward Limm is a millionaire, and forgive me if i'm incorrect, you are not ;)

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Originally Posted by Jase2 (Post 1515301)

Money isn't everything you know?

Really ? I'd like the chance to test that theory :)

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Originally Posted by SirAdrian (Post 1515411)

This can be said for any profession. Why be a teacher, doctor, gas station attendant, programmer or dog trainer, when you can join the Royal Marines and have friends. Why can't people have a job and a social life? I'd say being shipped off in the military would be far less social than living at home. ;)

It's not a matter of being rich/greedy, it's a matter of having a job to pay the bills, so you can live a normal life.

Usually people who are self employed value this (among other things), but have to charge higher due to the overhead of running your own business versus being a paid employee.

Money isn't everything, but it does have an enormous impact on the quality of ones life.

Good coders come from, and are rare in all countries. Just because someone charges more or less it doesn't mean they are better. However, their demand may be a good indication if you can't go on code quality yet.

@ the people laughing at the fact people pay thousands on websites... these are the people who run businesses. They invest in their business to help it grow. This is where quality matters - efficiency isn't a big deal until you start serving thousands of users at a time. Security isn't an issue until you have to worry about privacy, or losing money when a site is down. Scalable code isn't an issue until you start adding to or modifying it down the road (or when project scope changes). New coders do not understand these things, and will continue to dish out crap to those who are willing to pay for crap. Not to bash any specific region, but most of the outsourced work (usually in the middle east) I have to fix or cleanup is an absolute mess, and costs the client more in the long run than if they dished out a little extra for quality to begin with.

Just because you can't see the difference, that doesn't mean there is none.

Being said that, consider this thread closed :D
before ends in something bloody

We can talk economics and service charges till the cows come home, but it's not going to change anything.

Do you think anything can be done with our service request forum to make it easier for both clients to make their requests as detailed as possible and for coders to easily search constraints for requests to pull up services that they would be interested in....these constraints could be:

Skills required, Deadline, Budget, etc...etc....?

I am just throwing out ideas. :)

Ill pay White Mike $50 Per Hour When ever i need custom coding ,

He did a very extensive Product for me , it works great !! And his Support was Awesome .

I refuse to give log in credentials to anyone , If i have to ill pay them $50 per hour not to hijack my site :)

my complaint is that you can never get the same person to do something more than once. i dont know how many times ive tried to contact people who have done projects for me in the past and gotten no reply. its a two way street, the coders need to respond to the people who do pay what your time is worth. i know from my own experience with people here that the rates vary by coder from cheap to way over priced, you just have to take bids from people and pick the one that best fits you needs.

The other problem of hiring a $15/h coder is that some of them are coding really poor. It's like a time-bomb.
I had some bad experience when fixing someone's code might cost more than creating it.

Price is one thing, but good quality (guarantee, support, etc) is another thing. You choose what do you want depending on your budget.

Someone in Pennsylvania:

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I require $25 up front along with a copy of the site and a copy of the MYSQL database that the site uses. $15 an hour with a 4 hour minimum due upon completion.

If you are unsure on how to send me a copy of the site or the MYSQL database from your server please send me the website address along with the username and the password for the webhost that hosts your website.

Steven W

I will take it :)

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