Just wanted to put in my 2c piece and say that with any community of this size you are going to have problems. Tell me who doesn't. How you deal with them will show just how mature you can be. I am one of those 'newbie php' people and let me tell you I may be blonde but I'm not stupid. I think the master degree and 3 languages I speak qualifies me to have at least a little bit of brain power.

Most members here in the community that doesn't know php or vb or mysql let alone what they stand for look to you guys to help them out and learn. We all have to start somewhere and I for one am grateful for this community and a few others or I wouldn't have VB I'd still have PHPBB. I know a dirty work here. But it's true.

With what I've learned picking, putting, and dismembering these modification to get them to work has really been a huge help and I wanted to say thanks to all the people here that do help out. We have to be adult enough here to find solutions to the problems. Calling each other names and whining just makes people think your a two year old. There is a way for everything to work and with so many 'smart' people it should be no problem finding an answer.

Look up evolution and see what that word means.

Just my 2c and I'm sticking to it.
Thanks very much. **going to click install**

Why would I want info when I already know whats coming out..... I will no go into details, but I don't need info from him or anyone else.

This wouldn't have anything to do with a 52 gun 4th rate HMS vessel that was put of use in 1862 would it?

Wow! I never expected to hear such positive things from vBulletin. The first post in this thread applies to me 100%.

I've removed most of my stuff, and haven't even bothered to post any of my other mods since then, including the highly anticipated Groups mod (yahoo groups functionality). I had first considered releasing that particular mod as source, until one of the vB.org moderators began to attack and insult me for no valid reason, claiming that all my works are copyright infringement, license agreement breaches and more.

It's that same mentality that makes me not want to share my hard work here, and even give up foruming altogether. I've pretty much moved on to Internet Radio, though my station's site uses vB.

In summary, the modifications I've posted here, up to and including abandoned 3.0 hacks i've ported over I've done so without expectation of any compensation and for the good of all vBulletin operators and end-users. If this community were to become more focused and less egocentric, i'd be happy to put my two cents back in the pot.

Don't you mean the 38 gun 5th rate captured from the French in 1811

I myself have not been an active participant of vBorg for a very long time. I joined awhile ago at which time many things were nicely setup and close-knit. I guess with the large increase in new vB members tied with ambitious members, somewhere along the line I lost the passion to participate as I did.

vB.org used to be the forum that I used to come to and have interesting and helpful discussions about learning how to Code, there were people who really did want to see normal members go on to become coders, designers and what not -- when those normal members (like me) learned how to code and design and such somewhere along that we didn't take on the duty of passing on those skills to others (that is what this community was all about).

I honestly left for various reasons: I felt as though the community became full of moderators/hack coders who thought themselves above others (just because they know something over others). In addition, something that I have not mentioned to anyone, when I tried to help with vBCSS (a project that was initiated by Wayne and Kier) I was immediatly bashed by some members for trying to 'steal' a leading role -- honestly that hurt and I decided to just slip away and forget about it.

I was wrong on my part, I should have talked to people like Wayne, Kier and others who are always there to help and that is exactly what anyone who has any concerns should do.

Best wishes to everyone who are trying their best to see vB.org return to its glory.

I have rarely got answers to my questions in the Modification Questions sections. I have a thread in the 3.5 Modification Question forum right now that is very detailed and not one response. Pretty aggrevating because I know it is something a knowledgable coder would be able to answer.

If this is about the thread about modifiying functions_online.php then your attitude of expecting an instant response is one that pisses many coders off. That post has received a couple of replies within 24 hours, yet you couldnot wait even a day for a response, you just come and whinge about it here before anyone has a chance to answer it.
Shame on you :(

I wish good luck to all new staff members.
Honestly, I hope the things will change the way it used to be 4-5 years ago.
I'm sure you miss the also those times...

I remember similar issues also... for instance people rating my threads all the time with one star, just to piss me off. Read the second post:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=39482
And many others...

However, there were very good people also into the community... coders devoted to vB passion, not money making machines.
I just read one of my old tutorials, people used to be really kind and friendly...
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=38545

Arunan, you always had my respect, you are a great kid.

Floren

Wether or not this initatve is effective is going to be decided in part by people letting go of the past and making a fresh start....forgive, but don't forget if your not a big enough person to just make an outright clean break....don't drag it down, be supportive...but remember how you got burned in the past and don't put yourself there again.

Personally i'm a big fan of the steps being taken around here....and I thank everyone whos a part of them for making it happen.