Post your best anti troll hacks! :D

*Even while I'm not in this particular discussion :classic: ...* I understand your frustration. Yet, us "non-coders", do come in various colors and flavors. :)

As someone pointed out earlier, we learn from one another. Sure, there are some who can manage solely on their own "know-how" but at what pace? This community strives because we all have a common interest with our vB's. I can tell you honestly that I have much respect and appreciation for all of you who contribute to make our default vB into something spectacular. As much learning I have with vB's protocol I owe a great amount from reading, taking time with routines/scripts and asking questions. I do with what I can. Keep doing what you do and keep the creativity alive. :)

this is a nice suggestion as well.

For what my opinion is worth I don't care if the coders have one forum or three thousand forums that I can't access :) As was pointed out elsewhere by someone (sorry, I can't remember who - it may have been Amy :) ) we all, as forum owners, have forums on our sites that are usergroup based and not accessible by the general masses and it's not like anything that goes on in these forums is going to affect the rest of us - except in maybe a good way - as we could see some of the top coders here work together on some ideas and bring a new stage of things to vB plug ins.

Give both them and the staff a break and let the coders have some space of their own. *sits back and awaits the flaming ;)*

Thanks Azhrialilu. More users should see it that way but they don't.

Heres my additude towards the situation. I'm a coder and I went through alot of work and years of reading nonstop to be able to do what I can do now. I take the time out of my own day, to release mods I don't even use on my own sites, I create them out of a challange.

I ask myself... can I make this hack? Lets see if I can. I'm challenaging myself to create hacks I don't think I can make, and make them. Then I will share them with the rest of the community.

So years of studing, coding, and sharing my work should at least give me the option to go into a forum, where only coders like myself can access. If your not a coder, then start studying and learning like I did.

There are alot of selfish non-coders here. If you can't even take the fact that we would like a little corner to ourselfs, then don't bother using my hacks. It's people like you (non-coders who don't like the idea), that make me not want to release my work here.

As I have said that is in my view a very weak reason to restrict access to a resource. When I was first learning to code, around 25 years ago, there were no Internet resources to use yet I don't think everyone should have to "start studying and learning like I did", the world changes.

It is not a matter of not "take the fact that we would like a little corner to ourselfs" all I have pointed out is that it is shame that a potentially useful area, and by useful I mean an area that potentially would help and encouraging an even greater number of people to become "vb coders" is no longer available.

The way I see it, is that this forum is designed for a complex level of learning and discussion that as a non-coder, it is pointless you being able to read it... Why? Because you won't understand, and you will need to ask questions...

Your arguement of a valid and useful resource becomes null and void for that very simple reason - If you are advanced enough to view it and understand it, you are advanced enough to release your code here and become a Coder, therefore invalidating any reasons as to why you can't see it any more...

Chris

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Actually it doesn't - since as I commented there is a lot of educational benefit in just reading how experienced people tackle a problem.

Also another way to look at the why, where learning is concerned secrecy is not always the best approach: It could be that there are some very experienced and very good programmers who hang about here that for whatever reason haven't posted a hack and therefore the coders miss out on that groups programming experience.

You wouldn't join a weight lifting competition that required you to pick up a 4-door sedan would you?