I agree, its offencive, and racist.

How can nazi be racist ?

This forum is full of posts and words that some (or many in some cases) will find offensive.

This just seems a case of "If I shout loud enough I might get my way".

Coming next, phrase driven bbcodes which offend equally in all languages!

I guess depends where you are in the world, right now for some
Mr Bush and Bin Laden are seen as hero's and for others murderers...

Peace in 2006.

Hanif

Hello,

I just sat here and read each post in this thread and then went and viewed what has been deemed as controversial. Like everyone else, I too have an opinion.

The manner in which those words were used I find ignorant on the authors behalf. Using such words in an environment like this was not needed and displays a complete lack of character on the authors part.

I don't believe that the author has broken any rules though. The words are not being used in a derogatory manner. They are not being thrown at anyone nor are they "calling" anyone those "names" in a manner where flaming could be attached to their use.

Niether of those words bother me as I know what each of them means. I do find his use of them to be childish considering there are thousands of words that could have been used in those examples.

Everyone is going to have a different opinion on what words may or may not be appropriate. If no one is being directly accused of being a commie or a nazi and the words are being used as "wrap around text" (very distasteful for the record), there has been no rules that have been broken.

The author of the mod has bad taste in how he wanted to represent his modification and possibly needs a lesson on respect for different cultures, but he certainly didn't break any rules in the manner he chose to use those words.

Personally, I think a stand up guy that WASN'T trying to offend anyone would just change the 2 examples so this thread can end and no one feels offended. Keeping the examples there isn't doing anyone any justice and changing them won't hurt his modification. It would be a win - win fix and this thread goes away.

Thats my 2 cents on this. Just change the images and everyone is happy. leaving them there is just being antagonistic at this points and does not display good character.

Very very true ;)

can someone close this thread now ?! it is gone 500% farther than the original request...

My first reaction is 'who cares'? If you dont like it, change it or don't use the hack. Borgs has a valid reason for using it as such on his site and whether any one else agrees with it or not it obviously sits well with the members at his site.

Lottis:

Why should a word, for thats all it is, have such power over you? Why are you giving up control of your life and your sense of self to another simply because a word is mentioned?

A girl can be overwieght and called fat and ugly all her life... does that mean she shouldn't hold her head up high with the respect and confidence of all that she has achieved in her life simply because she over hears someone use the word fat? I think not.

Going back to my rant ;)

As for the "Boogers didn't kill millions of Jews" comment, should we ban the use of other terms like German since thats where the party started and some may find it offensive? How about African Americans which make up a large percentage of men jailed in the US? We could keep going but at what would be the point? I think freedom of speech means having the displine to hear without having to react.

"Unlike the Germans who were fighting to expand their empire"

Who first started fighting because of the heavy penality impossed on thier forefathers for WWI were leaving them destitute. Like them or not, they turned Germany from what was a third world country at that time ot a first word country.

Not to say I support or endorse thier actions, but the point could be argued with merit from both sides ;)

May I ask why you choose to try and counter my arguement by using the "generalization" card? Sure, we could tar all Germans with the same brush. But one would think we're adult enough and intelligent enough to realise that's just nonsense. It's not the politics of what the author has used that's in question here, it's the manner in which he's used it.

Agreed...

The staff will make a decision on this in due course, but maybe Borgs will do something of his own accord before we decide whether to do anything or not...

As for this thread, it is now closed...

Chris