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MRGTB 12-23-2005 03:44 PM

At the end of the day vBSEO own the right, so they can decide what they don't want there product used for. And you could argue this proves it not all about money for him. Otherwise the morals would have gone out the window and you would now own a vBSEO license.

I could be wrong, but I think he also refused to sell a license also to well know file sharing vbulletin site also based on morals

soniceffect 12-23-2005 03:46 PM

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No rights being violated.
For those who are saying 'its against the law' or 'it`s not against the law' or 'it`s violating rights' etc etc, here`s the facts behind this.

Whether on the net, the high street, a service, a product phisical item or otherwise, this falls under the catagory of contractual law. For those who have studied accountancy, this should already be known.


VBSEO is not offering there service in any way shape or form in the eyes of hte law. What they are doing is an 'invitation to treat' meaning they are inviting others to make an offer on there product, and also showing a price in which they feel is reasonable for this product. When you make the offer, this is a contract offer, and they have the right to either accept, or decline that offer. If they accept, then they are bound by contractual law. If they decline (as they have done in this case), they they are not bound by any contract, and therefore can refuse to give you the product at the amount you have offered.

Basically they do have the right to say 'we ain`t gonna sell it to you'.

For my sins I am an accountant LOL .. had to learn all this borin rubbish :)

Rick Sample 12-23-2005 03:54 PM

Lets not make this some politicaly debate :nervous: Though I strongly disagree with the decision and price of VBSEO, they have the right to deny anyones purchase as they own the software. Even as forum owners, we have the right to deny anyone a membership to our forums. Its the same thing to me.

Reeve of shinra 12-23-2005 05:01 PM

I'm mixed about the topic,...

HR3rdGen said that as a Christian he wouldn't sell lthe script to the site in question either... we'll hypothetically speaking, what happens when the arguement is changed to:

- I wont sell you the script because your a non-christian / believe in something else
- You are Black / White / Purple

BamaStangGuy 12-23-2005 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Corriewf
Brent, why are you so prompt to respond to vbseo threads? Answer that question please.

Because I own VBSEO and get tired of people bashing it when they don't use it and have never seen how it works ;)

I like the program, so I defend my purchase of it.

Good enough?

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Originally Posted by Loco.M
is bent the spokesman for vbseo ?

How many times are you going to ask this question? Seriously! How many times do I have to tell you I am nothing more than someone that likes the software and I am defending it because I purchased it and love it.

Would you please stop trolling my posts and asking the same questions over again? You bring nothing to this conversation.

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your always speaking up when anyone talks about the bad times they had with the product ??
Look who is talking! Your in this thread! You are always speaking up when I say something. Give me a break!

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anyways.. good to hear deans seo product is soon to be out of beta :)

in all honesty, I've been reading a LOT about seo and how to optimize your website, and I've yet to find proof that your site wont get index with static URL's, and for the 150 bill, it's definitely not worth it. I'd rather pay someone who has the experience with this and can seo my/your site, and be more then pleased...
Your site will get indexed with dynamic urls. It doesn't take a genious to figure that out guy.

See you want to know why I am in these threads. The same reason you are always in these threads complaining about the price. You give your opinion I give mine.

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Originally Posted by princessfrozen
is there a vbSEO aftermarket? I'm pretty sure folks have purchased and not used/liked it.

I am pretty sure people have bought vBulletin and not liked it too. Your arguement holds no water.

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whats the big deal about his site being about marijuana anyhow? its not like he's peddling kiddy pr0n or anything. if its about marijuana being illegal, well there are plenty of places (Denver AND Alaska in the US) where marijuana is legal for personal use. can someone make me understand?
What do you we have to make you understand?!?! It is quiet simple. The owner of VBSEO does not wish to have his name associated with Porn and other illegal activities or activiites that are against his beliefs.

Marijuana is not legal on a Federal level. Period.

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Originally Posted by soniceffect
For those who are saying 'its against the law' or 'it`s not against the law' or 'it`s violating rights' etc etc, here`s the facts behind this.

Whether on the net, the high street, a service, a product phisical item or otherwise, this falls under the catagory of contractual law. For those who have studied accountancy, this should already be known.


VBSEO is not offering there service in any way shape or form in the eyes of hte law. What they are doing is an 'invitation to treat' meaning they are inviting others to make an offer on there product, and also showing a price in which they feel is reasonable for this product. When you make the offer, this is a contract offer, and they have the right to either accept, or decline that offer. If they accept, then they are bound by contractual law. If they decline (as they have done in this case), they they are not bound by any contract, and therefore can refuse to give you the product at the amount you have offered.

Basically they do have the right to say 'we ain`t gonna sell it to you'.

For my sins I am an accountant LOL .. had to learn all this borin rubbish :)

Thank you :)

EricaJoy 12-23-2005 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BrentWilson
I am pretty sure people have bought vBulletin and not liked it too. Your arguement holds no water.

Errr...what? It wasn't an argument just trying to find the man a way to get vbSEO without the owners moral/legal/whatever opinions standing in his way.

BamaStangGuy 12-23-2005 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by princessfrozen
Errr...what? It wasn't an argument just trying to find the man a way to get vbSEO without the owners moral/legal/whatever opinions standing in his way.

I understand what you meant now. No there is no reselling vbseo without them knowing it. You must still contact them and register your license with them.

TyleR 12-23-2005 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by princessfrozen
Errr...what? It wasn't an argument just trying to find the man a way to get vbSEO without the owners moral/legal/whatever opinions standing in his way.

Impossible..it uses a database check on the site it's installed on which send the URL info to their online db. So no matter how they try to get around it, the content will be found, the person will be refunded (or possibly not, for breaking the EULA), and the host will be contacted if the script is not removed.

BamaStangGuy 12-23-2005 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TyleR
Impossible..it uses a database check on the site it's installed on which send the URL info to their online db. So no matter how they try to get around it, the content will be found, the person will be refunded (or possibly not, for breaking the EULA), and the host will be contacted if the script is not removed.

It only contacts VBSEO database when there is no license key in your config file. If you download the software from VBSEO itself the license key is already inside your config file and no call to home will exist.

Brad 12-23-2005 06:20 PM

Any business can refuse you service for any reason. Don't get me wrong, they can't go around saying 'We won't sell you x because you're black/mexican/white/etc' but they can refuse you service because you 'look funny' or they don't agree with certain things you do (in this case smoking/running a site about cannabis).

Compare it to a glass blower. I'm sure if he gets an order from a DEA agent for a glass bong that he isn't going to make it because the buyer is a 'pig'. Same thing.


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