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tjhanes 06-23-2009 01:03 PM

I run a golfing ladder, so the highest score doesnt win...the lowest does. Can someone give me some direction as how to change that functionality? is it possible?

Also want to repeat a previous question. Is there any way to manually add players to a ladder as an admin? and secondly a way to reorder/rerank players as the admin?

Thanx.
Tj.

BlueNinjaGo 06-23-2009 03:23 PM

Anyone having any postbit issues?

I enabled (in Options) for the info to appear in both profile and postbit. It appears in profile but no luck with the postbit.

vash911 06-23-2009 06:39 PM

Is there an error with the Elo Calculator?

I have a guy who is 3-0 he didn't get to #1.

He fought someone who is 2-0 and is now 3-1 and he has dropped down to 25 he is actually now behind someone who is 0-3. In addition it says his longest winning streak is 4, when in reality its 3 since he is 3-1.

That seems off.

biglamb 06-23-2009 06:49 PM

I have a few suggestions, I love this mod and I see great potential with it.

The admin should be allowed to decide what score each player on a specific ladder starts with. In other words instead of starting with 1000 points maybe I want them to start with a big goose egg.

I also like the idea posted earlier about a manual ranking style or a possible vote ranking style maybe based off ip address or user or something of that nature. Anyway, keep up the good work.

Stifmeister2 06-23-2009 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjhanes (Post 1835585)
I run a golfing ladder, so the highest score doesnt win...the lowest does. Can someone give me some direction as how to change that functionality? is it possible?

Also want to repeat a previous question. Is there any way to manually add players to a ladder as an admin? and secondly a way to reorder/rerank players as the admin?

Thanx.
Tj.

You (the admin) will advance players to next round, hence you have the power... And there are no "scores" in this mod.

tjhanes 06-24-2009 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stifmeister2 (Post 1835862)
You (the admin) will advance players to next round, hence you have the power... And there are no "scores" in this mod.

Yes, see that applying to a tournament. But what about a ladder....being able to manually place people on a ladder/adjust their rank?

Also, the mod does request a score when you report a match. It asks for the winning/losing score. And thats how it determines who the winner is of that match.

OttawaGolf 06-24-2009 05:08 PM

Something doesn't seem right with the ELO calculator:
http://forum.ottawagolf.com/ladders.php?do=elorating

No matter what the score is, the resulting ratings are always the same if the beginning ratings are the same and the winner of the match is the same.

Also, the larger the margin of difference is between opponents is the less gain a winning underdog gets. Example:
If a 1000 beats a 1001 the resulting ratings are 1024.92(winner) and 988.46(loser)
If a 1000 beats a 1030 the resulting ratings are 1022.84(winner) and 1016.42(loser)
and so on up to 1000 beating 2000 resulting in ratings of 1000.15 (winner) and 1975.07(loser)
Shouldn't beating a better opponent result in a higher rating than beating a lesser opponent?
Something just seems wrong with this calculator to me.

Stifmeister2 06-25-2009 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjhanes (Post 1836409)
Yes, see that applying to a tournament. But what about a ladder....being able to manually place people on a ladder/adjust their rank?

Also, the mod does request a score when you report a match. It asks for the winning/losing score. And thats how it determines who the winner is of that match.

Ohh sorry I misread it. :p


Anyway sorry can't help you with that, we only run tournaments on our site.. :(

bananalive 06-26-2009 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjhanes (Post 1835585)
I run a golfing ladder, so the highest score doesnt win...the lowest does. Can someone give me some direction as how to change that functionality? is it possible?

Also want to repeat a previous question. Is there any way to manually add players to a ladder as an admin? and secondly a way to reorder/rerank players as the admin?

Thanx.
Tj.

There are so many places where is it configured it would be very difficult to change it to lowest score wins.

And no. If i get a chance I'll add it.

bananalive 06-26-2009 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueNinjaGo (Post 1835663)
Anyone having any postbit issues?

I enabled (in Options) for the info to appear in both profile and postbit. It appears in profile but no luck with the postbit.

I've just checked and it works fine on my forum.

bananalive 06-26-2009 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OttawaGolf (Post 1836527)
Something doesn't seem right with the ELO calculator:
http://forum.ottawagolf.com/ladders.php?do=elorating

No matter what the score is, the resulting ratings are always the same if the beginning ratings are the same and the winner of the match is the same.

Also, the larger the margin of difference is between opponents is the less gain a winning underdog gets. Example:
If a 1000 beats a 1001 the resulting ratings are 1024.92(winner) and 988.46(loser)
If a 1000 beats a 1030 the resulting ratings are 1022.84(winner) and 1016.42(loser)
and so on up to 1000 beating 2000 resulting in ratings of 1000.15 (winner) and 1975.07(loser)
Shouldn't beating a better opponent result in a higher rating than beating a lesser opponent?
Something just seems wrong with this calculator to me.

Elo rating calculator is wrong. The formula is incorrect - it has yet to be updated to latest one.

bananalive 06-26-2009 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash911 (Post 1835827)
Is there an error with the Elo Calculator?

I have a guy who is 3-0 he didn't get to #1.

He fought someone who is 2-0 and is now 3-1 and he has dropped down to 25 he is actually now behind someone who is 0-3. In addition it says his longest winning streak is 4, when in reality its 3 since he is 3-1.

That seems off.

I've checked elo formula and found only one error with longest winning streak always increasing by 1 in some circumstances.

bananalive 06-26-2009 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananalive (Post 1837705)
I've checked elo formula and found only one error with longest winning streak always increasing by 1 in some circumstances.

I've played around with my test ladder with different scores and here are the results:

player 1 starts on 1083 and player 2 on 1000; p1 loses 2-3; new elo-ranks are 1057 and 1026

p1 starts on 1000 and p2 on 1057; p1 wins 4-2; new elo-ranks are 1026 and 1031

p1 starts on 1050 and p2 on 1000; game is draw; new elo-ranks are 1047 and 1003

p1 starts with 1047 and p2 with 1031; p1 wins 3-2; new elo-ranks are 1050 and 1025


These are all correct. (A higher k-value will mean one match will alter elo-rating more)

aztecboi2003 06-26-2009 10:53 AM

Do you know when you will have the updated version out yet? Thanks.

BlueNinjaGo 06-26-2009 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananalive (Post 1837684)
I've just checked and it works fine on my forum.

Can you tell me what template hook you used?

Playa82 06-28-2009 04:10 PM

hey, i can't add tournaments or ladders after upgrade. can seomebody help me ?

bananalive 06-28-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aztecboi2003 (Post 1837737)
Do you know when you will have the updated version out yet? Thanks.

No idea.

bananalive 06-28-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueNinjaGo (Post 1837851)
Can you tell me what template hook you used?

$template_hook[postbit_userinfo_right_after_posts]

bananalive 06-28-2009 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playa82 (Post 1838929)
hey, i can't add tournaments or ladders after upgrade. can somebody help me ?

Check your usergroup permissions.

Playa82 06-28-2009 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananalive (Post 1839008)
Check your usergroup permissions.

i already did. i got all permissions as admin...

bananalive 06-29-2009 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playa82 (Post 1839020)
i already did. i got all permissions as admin...

You should have the following options in usergroup permissions

Tournament and Ladder Permissions
Can View Tournaments Yes No
Can Join Tournaments Yes No
Can Create Tournaments Yes No
Tournament Moderator Users with this option selected have full control over all tournaments. Yes No
Can Comment on Tournaments Yes No
Can Delete All Comments on Tournaments Yes No
Can Delete their own Comments on Tournaments Yes No
Can Create New Team Yes No
Can Request to Join Team Yes No
Can Edit and Delete All Teams Team leaders can edit and delete their own teams Yes No
Maximum teams a user can create Based on number teams the user has created.


More Tournament and Ladder Permissions
Can View Ladders Yes No
Can Join Ladders Yes No
Can Create Ladders Yes No
Can Edit Ladders Yes No
Can add a user to a team No conformation is needed by the user or the team leader(s). Yes No


What error(s) are you getting? Or is it the standard no permission page?

BlueNinjaGo 06-29-2009 02:02 PM

Ok, well I looked at your plug-in and it appeared to use a different template hook...

$template_hook[postbit_userinfo_left]

... I changed it and it still didn't work, so I just manually entered your postbit template into my legacy template so it appears now.

Playa82 06-29-2009 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananalive (Post 1839401)
You should have the following options in usergroup permissions

Tournament and Ladder Permissions
Can View Tournaments Yes No
Can Join Tournaments Yes No
Can Create Tournaments Yes No
Tournament Moderator Users with this option selected have full control over all tournaments. Yes No
Can Comment on Tournaments Yes No
Can Delete All Comments on Tournaments Yes No
Can Delete their own Comments on Tournaments Yes No
Can Create New Team Yes No
Can Request to Join Team Yes No
Can Edit and Delete All Teams Team leaders can edit and delete their own teams Yes No
Maximum teams a user can create Based on number teams the user has created.


More Tournament and Ladder Permissions
Can View Ladders Yes No
Can Join Ladders Yes No
Can Create Ladders Yes No
Can Edit Ladders Yes No
Can add a user to a team No conformation is needed by the user or the team leader(s). Yes No


What error(s) are you getting? Or is it the standard no permission page?

No error Message, when i want to add a tournament or ladder it does nothing, it leaves me at the main page...

bananalive 06-29-2009 05:13 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Playa82 (Post 1839644)
No error Message, when i want to add a tournament or ladder it does nothing, it leaves me at the main page...

try importing attached file

Playa82 06-29-2009 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananalive (Post 1839717)
try importing attached file

still doesn't work :-(

Theory6 Brian 06-30-2009 04:28 AM

having an issue joining a team after i've left it (was just testing things and bam)

shane greer 07-02-2009 05:53 PM

My members PM link doesnt work when clicking to see challenges?

Any ideas.

bananalive 07-03-2009 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playa82 (Post 1839792)
still doesn't work :-(

Are you using vbseo?

bananalive 07-03-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theory6 Brian (Post 1839999)
having an issue joining a team after i've left it (was just testing things and bam)

After you request to join a team, the team leader will need to confirm he/she wants you in his/her team.

bananalive 07-03-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shane greer (Post 1841545)
My members PM link doesnt work when clicking to see challenges?

Any ideas.

Which page is this on?

commoncents 07-03-2009 06:04 PM

Is there a way you can add an edit to only allow the winner to post wins

I've seen instances where Player B will accept Player A's challenge and if Player B wins, Player A won't confirm that they lost.

Playa82 07-03-2009 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananalive (Post 1841959)
Are you using vbseo?

it was working before vbuletin 3.8.3 update...

bananalive 07-04-2009 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commoncents (Post 1842223)
Is there a way you can add an edit to only allow the winner to post wins

I've seen instances where Player B will accept Player A's challenge and if Player B wins, Player A won't confirm that they lost.

The player encountering problems should click the report image https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/ on the right hand side of the challenge. Then you (or any other ladder admins) can confirm the score. There is option for player reporting the match to provide a screenshot as proof of score.

bananalive 07-04-2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playa82 (Post 1842262)
it was working before vbuletin 3.8.3 update...

I have yet to install vb 3.8.3 but i dont think that would cause any issues.

If you view page source

Search for following occurance:
HTML Code:

<form action="tournaments.php"

commoncents 07-05-2009 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananalive (Post 1842624)
The player encountering problems should click the report image http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/image...ons/report.gif on the right hand side of the challenge. Then you (or any other ladder admins) can confirm the score. There is option for player reporting the match to provide a screenshot as proof of score.

ok cool. as long as there is a way to overwrite someone who doesn't report i'm happy.

What about calculating averages? For example, I'll be using this for football games. Is there a way for you to calculate the averages of multiple games played . For instance if I play 3 games and score 30 points total in all 3, my average will be 10 points a game. This would be fun to allow users to see, who scores the most. Who has the best D, etc ,etc. you could allow the admin to determine what stats users must enter. and only the winner would have to enter the stats.

Playa82 07-05-2009 09:45 AM

when i want to add a tournament it shows this code:

Code:

competitions.php?do=addtmnt
i changed it to:

Code:

tournaments.php?do=add
now it works. but if you don't change it, it doesn't work. same for ladder adding

shane greer 07-05-2009 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananalive (Post 1841963)
Which page is this on?

The private mail message that gets sent with the you have been challenged quote to the members mailbox.

bananalive 07-06-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shane greer (Post 1843293)
The private mail message that gets sent with the you have been challenged quote to the members mailbox.

Ahh, i know where you mean.

Where does the link point to?

The contents of the pm is defined in the template: tmnt_ladder_chalpm

Bounce 07-06-2009 04:02 PM

This is not saving the permission's, what it does do thou is create another usergroup when you update, i've renamed my admincp, could that effect the settings? :confused:

bananalive 07-07-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hIBEES (Post 1843875)
This is not saving the permission's, what it does do thou is create another usergroup when you update, i've renamed my admincp, could that effect the settings? :confused:

No-one else has encountered this problem, so it probably is due to another modification. Try disabling other modifications installed on your forum.

Renaming your admincp should not be the problem.


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