can i pm you for topic relate to security and my site with this hack ?

Well, I'm sure most showthread queries surpass the template queries in size.. Although I agree it's a most ridiculous way to use the "V" in "MVC" so I hope that changes in 4.0. I'm hoping for something like CodeIgniter where we get a Views folder with all the template files. (And of course the means in default vBulletin to cache these.) :)

I can't think of a better word.... but would it be better for "latency" if we were to only use the Xcache VAR cache for this modification, and tell vBulletin to use nothing but Memcached? (Meaning: So not everything is trying to use the same cache at once)

I was a little foggy on that anyway, because I'm aware that Memcached is capable of a lot more than just caching vB's Datastore, but it seems that if you don't configure vBulletin to use Memcached for the Datastore, then Memcached won't bother caching any other objects into memory, such as query results, etc.

So I guess we can't pick and choose, huh?

I guess I'd be fine with that anyway... This mod = Xcache's var cache, vBulletin = Memcached

tmc - This mod can already use XCache while vBulletin uses Memcache, unless I'm missing your point?

dvt100 - The security flaw would be, any other administrator would be able to see your XCache password, and while the only threat would be if you had the XCache page which required user/pass, they could login. Nothing more or less, as far as I know.

ok thanks i glad this wont affect me at all .would be nice if next update can have my request as optional thanks.

Yeah, a little bit. haha. :)

It's fine, though. I can't really state it any better. I'll just have to mosy on over to vB dot com and ask them if I can use Xcache for the Datastore, but still have Memcached do all the non-Datastore object caching. Meaning: Memcached can do LOTS more than store the measly 1MB of Datastore data, but I think vBulletin forces me into using Memcached for BOTH or not at all.

I just figured since you poked your head around inside all the vB internals you may already know the answer. :)

The only thing vBulletin caches on its own using any cacher is the datastore, unless you're referring to other things vBulletin caches aside from the datastore? Sorry I'm not getting your point :)

Like I said, data is similar from last week. Keep in mind that this is the amount of data being passed between two servers and not from server to user. The decrease in data transferred to users is minimal.

After installing and using Filecache as only method I can use, FORUMHOME is around 30% slower than without installing this mod even if there are 3 queries less. Could there be something I did wrong?

ThrostenA - Filecache is not the best, and if your servers harddrives aren't that fast you'll notice slower page generation times. Try use a difference cache method, XCache seems to have the best results. If you're unsure how to install the extensions, ask your host for assistance :)

Hi Deceptor,

I'm using version 1.3.2 of the mod on a 3.7.4 board with vBSEO installed. It installed easily and evidently correctly. I can see that it is cutting down on the db queries as billed and caching some of the data. I am using XCache and enabled that feature. I can see from the XCache admin panel that the mod is accessing the variable cache. I am getting warnings for many of the template entries (eg vbactivecache_template_xxxxxx) as follows:

The cache in such cases appears to be empty.

Any ideas on why this is happening and if there is an effect?