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codewebs 01-06-2003 08:29 PM

other than being .. theres a link to both the archives at the bottom of the pages, but ill try that out too

O :p how do you change the color of just those links and not the rest ? thanx

NTLDR 01-06-2003 08:52 PM

Use something like:

Code:

<a href="link to archive"><smallfont color="#HEX Color Code">Archive</smallfont></a>

codewebs 01-06-2003 09:08 PM

ok thank you soo much, that worked perfectly :)

tpearl5 01-06-2003 10:11 PM

Guidster, I know you said you got subforums working, but I'm not getting something right, and I don't want to change anything around with the way my forums are setup.

Is there another way to get subforums to work?

Guidster 01-07-2003 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tpearl5
Guidster, I know you said you got subforums working, but I'm not getting something right, and I don't want to change anything around with the way my forums are setup.

Is there another way to get subforums to work?

The only way to get the archive to display subforums and the topics that I found was to do as I did. Did you go have a look?

Google has nailed me down 3 levels today, so i know that I am in business. Fun to watch, funny how it progresses!

Guidster 01-07-2003 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NTLDR
Codewebs, try also submitting the URL to your achive as well as your site, I've done that, also perhaps changing you link from .. to some text, I've got it as text thats the same as the background colour so users can't see it.
In my reading, I thought that matching your link color to the background was taboo and could result in them not indexing you if caught?? I kept it visible for that reason.

subduck 01-07-2003 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Guidster


In my reading, I thought that matching your link color to the background was taboo and could result in them not indexing you if caught?? I kept it visible for that reason.

It is, and it's also looked down upon.

SkuZZy 01-07-2003 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Guidster


In my reading, I thought that matching your link color to the background was taboo and could result in them not indexing you if caught?? I kept it visible for that reason.

Google will ban you if you use invisible text or links. This means using text that is, in theory, "invisible". Just add a normal link to the archive. If you try and make it the same color as your background, you'll get banned

tpearl5 01-07-2003 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Guidster


The only way to get the archive to display subforums and the topics that I found was to do as I did. Did you go have a look?

Google has nailed me down 3 levels today, so i know that I am in business. Fun to watch, funny how it progresses!

I still don't understand how you did it though.. humm.. crap, time is running out.. google has been happily wondering through my site all day.

crocket 01-07-2003 08:53 AM

Is there a way to check wether the override all setting is working?

Im sureits set ok, but i get 404 errors when i click on a link?

i really want this working :) But no joy so far!

http://www.lcdmod.com/archive

I don't want to keep asking for help and this shall be my last post asking :D :bunny:

codewebs 01-07-2003 10:30 AM

well mines visible just in case :P :)

hamed 01-07-2003 11:13 AM

Is it possible to activate VB codes in archive pages?

Thanks again SkuZZy. Google and some other search eangines are having a nice time on my forums :banana: .

cklaszlo 01-07-2003 12:32 PM

Yet a 4th day now of getting crawled! 50 Guests on our boards and they are all Google. (http://www.thrillnetwork.com/boards/online.php)

I submitted our main site, the archive and also have links to the archive in our main footers and in our main navigation off of the index page. I think this is why it worked.

A few questions:

When does Google add the crawl to their index?

How do I add a black border around the main table? I want the archive to match our site.

Thanks!

NTLDR 01-07-2003 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkuZZy
Google will ban you if you use invisible text or links. This means using text that is, in theory, "invisible". Just add a normal link to the archive. If you try and make it the same color as your background, you'll get banned
I'll take your work for it, I've never seen that anywhere, I submitted the archive URL anyway as well as my main site. Thanks for the info though :)

codewebs 01-07-2003 08:35 PM

I seem to have the worst luck :( my server load was going up to around 20, then mr. google bot decided to visit my forums :( what do you know, he went to my archive, the server load cept rising and the server crashed/ wenst really slow after the load past 60 :(

codewebs 01-07-2003 11:10 PM

sorry to keep responding but my internet went down and when it came back :) !!

Guest Unknown Location: /archive/topic/39.html? 08:00 PM 216.239.46.82
Guest Unknown Location: /archive/topic/15.html? 08:00 PM 216.239.46.27

(google bots)

EDIT: Still going :) !!!

Guidster 01-08-2003 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tpearl5


I still don't understand how you did it though.. humm.. crap, time is running out.. google has been happily wondering through my site all day.

Have you went to my site to have a look and compare it to the archive? Also, send me a link to yours and I will swing by and have a peek.

www.allthingsmoto.com

SkuZZy 01-08-2003 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hamed
Is it possible to activate VB codes in archive pages?

Thanks again SkuZZy. Google and some other search eangines are having a nice time on my forums :banana: .

VB code is activated automatically... and your welcome ;)

SkuZZy 01-08-2003 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cklaszlo
Yet a 4th day now of getting crawled! 50 Guests on our boards and they are all Google. (http://www.thrillnetwork.com/boards/online.php)

I submitted our main site, the archive and also have links to the archive in our main footers and in our main navigation off of the index page. I think this is why it worked.

A few questions:

When does Google add the crawl to their index?

How do I add a black border around the main table? I want the archive to match our site.

Thanks!

Nice job! It's good to submit your archive and add a link to it.

Google will add pages at the end of the month. The main spidering happens 5 days after the dance. The dance is when google updates all links and adds newly spidered pages. The dance this month was January 1st. So spidering happens between the 5th and 10th. All the pages spidered between the 5th and 10th will be added on the next dance, which will happen at the end of January or maybe very early febuary. So to answer your question, in about 3 weeks a ++++ load of your pages will be spidered.

On this note, i'd like to add one more thing. Not all your pages will be added to google at once. They only add a certain percentage per month to prevent spamming. I think it's like 2000 pages per month available to be added. (Each thread counts as 1 page). So about 2000 of your threads will get put in google the first month. Be patient though, the next month will get even more added!

SkuZZy

SkuZZy 01-08-2003 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NTLDR


I'll take your work for it, I've never seen that anywhere, I submitted the archive URL anyway as well as my main site. Thanks for the info though :)

If you really need to use a color similiar, then use one that is very light. For instance, use #111111 on a #000000 background and it will be hardly noticable. But don't make it like #000000 and #000001 .... cause even though google can't tell, if someone reports it to google you will get banned. It's up to you and the chances you want to take ;)

BTW, I like your avatar. Is that you? Or is it one of the three sisters or whatever.

cklaszlo 01-08-2003 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkuZZy


Nice job! It's good to submit your archive and add a link to it.

Google will add pages at the end of the month. The main spidering happens 5 days after the dance. The dance is when google updates all links and adds newly spidered pages. The dance this month was January 1st. So spidering happens between the 5th and 10th. All the pages spidered between the 5th and 10th will be added on the next dance, which will happen at the end of January or maybe very early febuary. So to answer your question, in about 3 weeks a ++++ load of your pages will be spidered.

On this note, i'd like to add one more thing. Not all your pages will be added to google at once. They only add a certain percentage per month to prevent spamming. I think it's like 2000 pages per month available to be added. (Each thread counts as 1 page). So about 2000 of your threads will get put in google the first month. Be patient though, the next month will get even more added!

SkuZZy

Good to know. Thanks. Now, not that I am complaining but this is now day 5 and crawl.googlebot.com is back at it. For about 4 hours this morning. How many days, on average, will it crawl? And , :D ad revenue page views!!!

Now if someone would only help me in placing a black border around the archive links. hint hint.

Thanks,

Alex

hamed 01-08-2003 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkuZZy


VB code is activated automatically... and your welcome ;)

Thank you for your reply. But some parts of it are not working. Like IMG tags and links.

Tanx again. This hack is the best vb archive system ever :) .

cklaszlo 01-08-2003 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hamed


Thank you for your reply. But some parts of it are not working. Like IMG tags and links.

Tanx again. This hack is the best vb archive system ever :) .

For us as well. VB code isn't working:

http://www.thrillnetwork.com/boards/...pic/3616.html?

Thanks,

Alex

NTLDR 01-08-2003 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkuZZy
If you really need to use a color similiar, then use one that is very light.
Thanks, I've changed it to the same colour as my footer text, while were on this kin d of subject, I modified the archive so that if it dedects MSIE or Mozilla in the User Agent then it redirects to the actual page (eg showthread.php?threadid=X), would you suggest that I remove that code? I'm not sure if google would look down on that too, I'm guessing they would.

Quote:

BTW, I like your avatar. Is that you? Or is it one of the three sisters or whatever.
*lol* Unfortunaly its not me, wrong gender for starters ;) Its Rose McGowan who plays Paige in Charmed.

Mutt 01-08-2003 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Velocd
For those of you having chdir() problems, the only code you should need inside the chdir() is the following:

PHP Code:

chdir("../forums");
require(
"global.php"); 


I was getting the blank page too, but this fixed it. Thanks

Mutt 01-08-2003 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NTLDR
I modified the archive so that if it dedects MSIE or Mozilla in the User Agent then it redirects to the actual page
mind sharing the code changes

I changed a line in topic from this
PHP Code:

echo "<html><body><head><title>[$thread[title]] - $title</title></head><base href=\"$forumurl/\">"

to this
PHP Code:

echo "<html><body><head><title>[$thread[title]] - $title</title>
<script>
var browser_type=navigator.appName
if (browser_type==\"Netscape\"||browser_type==\"Microsoft Internet Explorer\") {
window.location.replace(\"
$forumurl/showthread.php?s=&threadid=$thread[threadid]\")
}
</script>
</head><base href=\"
$forumurl/\">"

It seems to work, but will this screw up the search spidering?

NTLDR 01-08-2003 09:22 PM

Google has been on my site browsing through the archive with no problems, its just the issue of wether or not they allow it. Heres the changes I made:

index.php right after you have required config.php add:

PHP Code:

    // check the browser and redirect if needed
    
if (eregi("MSIE",$HTTP_USER_AGENT)) { // browser is IE
        
header("Location: $forumurl");

    } elseif (
eregi("Mozilla/5.0",$HTTP_USER_AGENT)) { // browser is NS 6
        
header("Location: $forumurl");

    } elseif (
eregi("Mozilla/4.",$HTTP_USER_AGENT)) { // browser is NS4
        
header("Location: $forumurl");
    } 

topic again add after requiring config.php:

PHP Code:

    // check the browser and redirect if needed
    
if (eregi("MSIE",$HTTP_USER_AGENT)) { // browser is IE
        
header("Location: $forumurl/showthread.php?threadid=$threadid");

    } elseif (
eregi("Mozilla/5.0",$HTTP_USER_AGENT)) { // browser is NS 6
        
header("Location: $forumurl/showthread.php?threadid=$threadid");

    } elseif (
eregi("Mozilla/4.",$HTTP_USER_AGENT)) { // browser is NS4
        
header("Location: $forumurl/showthread.php?threadid=$threadid");
    } 

And forum (as above for code placement):

PHP Code:

// check the browser and redirect if needed
    
if (eregi("MSIE",$HTTP_USER_AGENT)) { // browser is IE
        
header("Location: $forumurl/forumdisplay.php?forumid=$forumid");

    } elseif (
eregi("Mozilla/5.0",$HTTP_USER_AGENT)) { // browser is NS 6
        
header("Location: $forumurl/forumdisplay.php?forumid=$forumid");

    } elseif (
eregi("Mozilla/4.",$HTTP_USER_AGENT)) { // browser is NS4
        
header("Location: $forumurl/forumdisplay.php?forumid=$forumid");
    } 


codewebs 01-08-2003 09:29 PM

isnt that called like mirroring or masking or something? (google spent 5 hours on my archive yesterday :))

codewebs 01-08-2003 09:39 PM

heres the answers: (off google.com)

Quality Guidelines - Specific recommendations:

Avoid hidden text or hidden links.
Don't employ cloaking or sneaky redirects.
Don't send automated queries to Google.
Don't load pages with irrelevant words.
Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially duplicate content.
Avoid "doorway" pages created just for search engines, or other "cookie cutter" approaches such as affiliate programs with little or no original content

EDIT: Im getting spidered again!!! also i added another hack so threads and forums are .html and google is liking it.

NTLDR 01-08-2003 09:41 PM

Thanks codewebs, do you have a link to that page? I looked for guidelines but couldn't find them!

I think I'll remove the redirects based on browsers to be sure :)

codewebs 01-08-2003 09:45 PM

it wasnt the easiest website to navigate :)

http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html

NTLDR 01-08-2003 09:48 PM

*lol* I must agree there :)

Thanks for the link :D

crocket 01-09-2003 10:51 AM

Ive managed to get a local server going with PHP and that lot.. anyway i set the override and that to all and im still getting 404 errors.

The first page shows fine but when i click a link it comes up with an error..

?! Help!

Thanx

SkuZZy 01-09-2003 03:56 PM

I just started a few days ago with this new pop up program called http://popupsponsor.cjb.net. I just wanted to let you guys know, there is an easy way to make money using this archive. Not only is it good for getting more traffic to your forums, but making money with it too? :D Since all the traffic coming in is from search engines, most of it is unique and this pop up company pays $5.00 per 1000 unique visitors. Also, putting pop-up windows on your archive won't affect your actual forum. I said i'd never put pop ups on my forums, cause my loyal members shouldn't have to deal with them... so I put them on the archive instead. Right nowi 'm making like $10-15 a day. From everyone i've heard, they pay on time. They are pretty reputable.

You can sign up at http://popupsponsor.cjb.net (forwards straight to signup form)

SkuZZy 01-09-2003 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cklaszlo


Good to know. Thanks. Now, not that I am complaining but this is now day 5 and crawl.googlebot.com is back at it. For about 4 hours this morning. How many days, on average, will it crawl? And , :D ad revenue page views!!!

Now if someone would only help me in placing a black border around the archive links. hint hint.

Thanks,

Alex

I think NTLDR's archive has black border around it (erm, or one of the demos). Check it out. I'm no HTML pro :/ And for making ad revenue, check my post right above this one... about making money. There is a good way to make money with this archive $$ :D

cono 01-09-2003 04:11 PM

i get a blank screen? i have the corrent path to the global.php but it doesnt work.

i dont have mod overright. any ideas on what i should try?

here is the url to the archive...
http://www.source-forums.org/vbb/archive/

Smoothie 01-09-2003 06:09 PM

Is there a way to change the script so that when you click on a category link you don't get a blank page?

cono 01-10-2003 12:07 AM

ok got it to work perfect! thanks for the great hack.

this is what made the diffrence.
Quote:

// Full PATH to your global.php file
chdir("../");
require("global.php");
$title="Jokers Rewards";
$forumurl="http://www.jokersrewards.com/forum";
$archiveurl="http://www.jokersrewards.com/forum/history";
you can add me to the lis as well
http://www.source-forums.org/vbb/archive/index.php

:banana:

TECK 01-10-2003 02:22 AM

I finished my own version, very similar to VB3 one. Is designed as an add-on for vbHome (lite).
Still working on few minor bugs related to no permission page but the engine is ready to start. :)
http://www.teckwizards.com/archives.php

SkuZZy 01-10-2003 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cono
ok got it to work perfect! thanks for the great hack.

this is what made the diffrence.


you can add me to the lis as well
http://www.source-forums.org/vbb/archive/index.php

:banana:

Looks great, I like the sub forums mods. Good job ;) Added to the list!


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