Which by the way I owe you a apology as well, my reaction to what I saw as your "chicken little" approach wasn't my best efforts here. So I apologize and I hope you'll accept.

HOWEVER, once again I believe some of us here are overblowing this issue and asking for things vB dot org either can't give or won't give due to ongoing security issues...

Anyhow, mea culpa.

The English language may not be everyone's strong point, but Paul's statement is not a definitive statement.

It does not say the hack was definitely not caused through a vBulletin exploit, even if you'd like it to say that, because he doesn't even claim to know exactly what happened.

Thread closed.

If someone wants to open a new discussion on this same topic then so be it however lets keep it very calm and collected the next time around if not I'll promptly close that one as well.

Edit: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...s-in-vbulletin