It's too bad Android posts don't show up as Android instead of Linux.

If you want that added, I'll need the useragent string from 'Who's Online'. Once I have that I can add it.

Last week you added ForumRunner support, and I showed you the USER AGENT at the time.

It stopped working, and now the user agent seems to have a different look:

ForumRFree 1.5.12 rv:40 (iPhone; iPhone OS 4.3.5; en_AU)

The user is on the paid version, from an iPad.

I just wanted to give you the updated info, for future consideration.

Thanks

That's Android 4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich)

Linux is the correct OS icon using that useragent. If you want it narrowed down, it would be a 'Mobile' icon with a Galaxy Nexus operating system and version.

The browser would be Android. ;)

Android is a Linux based O/S but most people would identify it as Android. Mobile users on my forum would love to see the little Android icon next to posts they make from their Android phones :)

I'm working on my own OS/Browser postbit display plugin, and it shows Android as Android (with the specific version icons, such as Froyo, Honeycomb, ICS etc.), Ubuntu as Ubuntu and so on. I'll upload it when I'm finished with it. This plugin is for vBulletin 3.8 though, not sure if it'll work with 4.x but we'll see if I can add support for vB4.

By the way nhawk, do you mind if I fork this plugin and code my own version and upload it as a separate plugin? I have some disagreements on a few issues such as icon size. Also, I'll add a lot more icons for various browsers and operating systems. The plugin I'm working on now is an update/modification of the plugin Fighter1405 worked on for vB3.8 but this plugin of yours is very good with the exception of some issues I'd like to see changed.

Also, you've coded it far more complicated than it needs to be.

I would prefer you didn't.

And I feel it's as complicated as it needs to be for what it does. If you disagree with that, use PMs and we'll discuss it.

Also, the system does identify Ubuntu, etc.

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Well, if we may not come to agreement, I may just install it and use my own modification of it on my forum. I'm using vB3.8.7 now though, so I'm not using your plugin.

You've done a good job in adding more browser and OS support, but it's still quite incomplete (hey, I don't blame ya, I've learned myself that this takes quite some time).

We can take it here rather than PM. For one, I don't understand why you've grouped together Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2? They are clearly distinguishable by user agent string (6.1 and 6.0) and so it's possible to separate them in the postbit information. You also don't have a specific icon for Windows 7; you're using the Vista icon.

Personally, I think the icons should be sized at least 20 on the height and 24 as a max.

I wouldn't really need to modify your plugin though. I guess all I need is to add browser/OS version support for Fighter1405's old vB3.8 plugin, in the alt text. Do I need $tmp_array, $useragent and $client_data for that?

Windows 7 and Vista do have the same logo from Microsoft. They never changed it.

So far as icon size, they are sized at 19. But if you like 20, I can't please everyone. ;)

I can't help with Fighter1405's plugin since I've never seen it and I don't know a thing about it.

Installed and nominated

Well, there are Windows 7 icons like this one:

http://www.pconline.se/wp-content/up...7/windows7.jpg

Here's Fighter's plugin:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=219687

Well, the ones I user are the ones shown on most Microsoft packaging.

And if you didn't know it the Server 2008 version numbers are the same for Windows 7 and Vista.

Windows7/Server 2008 = 6.1
Vista/Server 2008 = 6.0

And the newest is Windows 8 = 6.2

I have no intention of using my time to decode someone else add-on. If you want to change it you are on your own.

Yeah, but still, it would be like using a win2k icon for winxp if you know what I mean.

Yes, but most forum posters don't actually use Windows Server 2008 R2 so it's kind of redundant to even have that as the alt text.

I can understand that. Looks like I'll be playing around with your plugin then :p

Also, you lack iOS icons and so on. I've currently done a good job with updating Fighter's plugin, but it's for vB3.8 only so I'm not sure if it's worth working any more on it.

Hmmm :D

That's good, although I've added icons for every Android version ;)

By the way, I was thinking... is it possible that you could add some statistics counter or something? In admincp or something that shows how many posts were made with this OS and that browser, something like that, would be nice.

Thank you for this update! :)

thanks for the update! :D

Strange bug which sometimes happens.
I tick the users who I want to be able to see this mod and it all works fine.
Then for some un known reason they all get set back to being un-ticked.
This has happened a few times, but one now and again.

any ideas?

I haven't seen this on my site and nobody else has reported this.

Is it possible that someone else is resetting the usergroups without telling you?

don't work vb 4.2.0 :(

Yes it does :D

Installed it but it will not allow me to save any of the selected Usergroups

Doesn't seem to for me on 4.2.0

Ok I got my story sorted out. I am using the Advanced Product Management and when I used this I could not save it. However if I go through the normal way Options/OS/Browser Display Settings it works 100%

It does work on 4.2.0. My site uses this and it is running 4.2.0.

Are you making a new post? The mod can't display the OS and Browser for old posts because that info wasn't collected when the old posts were made.

Did you upload all of the files to the proper locations?

Did you turn the mod on in ACP->Settings->Options->OS/Browser Display Settings?

Did you set the usergroups that can see the OS and Browser types? At least one usergroup for both OS and Browser must be selected.

Advanced Product Management will not work with most of my mods that set usergroups using checkboxes or radio buttons.

nhawk on your forum it shows the Blackberry icon but when I installed it I see the ? unknown icon. Also nothing for Tapatalk at all just a blank.

I'm running the next version that hasn't been released yet.

The next time the person that isn't showing tapatalk is on, go to Who's Online and set 'User Agent' to 'Yes'. Then send me the useragent that isn't showing on your site.

Okay, I've installed vB 4.2 now, a few issues:

Android isn't supported when using Firefox; only the Firefox icon is shown, and the reason for that is because Firefox doesn't show the version number of Android. Here's the UA:

Mozilla/5.0 (Android; Mobile; rv:14.0) Gecko/14.0 Firefox/14.0.1

Using Konqueror:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) KHTML/4.8.4 (like Gecko) Konqueror/4.8

It shows Konqueror as 4.8.4 but isn't that the KHTML version?

When using Chromium, it shows the Chrome icon. It's possible to show the Chromium, I've done this with my plugin. Here's the UA for Chromium:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Ubuntu/12.04 Chromium/18.0.1025.168 Chrome/18.0.1025.168 Safari/535.19

Moreover, the Chrome icon is the old and outdated Chrome icon, in my opinion, it would look better if you used the updated 2011 Chrome icon. And the 2011 Chromium icon.

And then there's this bug that keeps deselecting all usergroups in admincp, so basically no one can see the icons. Not sure what's causing this. Maybe installation of new plugins or something. Shouldn't be like that though, because it's a pain in the ass to select all usergroups.

If you need to identify a user agent string, you should use this site:

http://id.furud.net/

And its database is most helpful:

http://id.furud.net/showdb.php

I would also prefer if you resized the icons to 24 pixels in height, it looks better than 19. You can use my icons, I even have customised versions of Android for each major release (ICS, Honeycomb, CyanogenMod etc.) and I also have more icons than you.

I'll look into the Android/Firefox combination for the next release.

KHTML is the heart of Konqueror so the versioning is correct.

I'll look into Chromium for the next release.

The Chrome icon IS the new one. Look closely at it.

I've always known where to check useragents, but I am not going to run through the thousands of useragents to accomodate obscure rarely used ones. If someone reports one that is in use and not displayed, I do my best to add it.

I have no intention of increasing the size of the icons. If you want to change them on your site, that's up to you.

And I'm going to try to be nice about this. Please stop referring to 'Your' plugin in this thread, it is off topic and irrelevant to vB 4.x in this thread. In my opinion it is not your plugin, but that's up to the people at vB.org to decide. And also, please stop attempting to educate me. I have been doing this type of work since the inception of the internet. If I don't already know something, I ask.

What that boils down to in your case is... if you don't like it, uninstall it.

Great.

Ok, I stand corrected then.

Great.

No it's not. It is as a matter of fact, the old Chrome icon. How could you possibly not have noticed this?

I think you should. I've added support for various obscure browsers. On most forums, they're not needed because most people use the major browsers and operating systems, but on software forums for example, such obscure browsers are more common. I understand the extra work may not seem like it's worth it, but still, such plugins are all about perfection.

I could do it easily, were it not for the browser-icon-sprites.png, this makes every icon a pain in the ass to change. Is it possible to ditch the browser-icon-sprites.png? It's not used in the other plugins of this kind.

Why? Is there a rule here that one cannot discuss other similar plugins? I'm not promoting my plugin, I think yours is better but it does need some improvements.

What's with the attitude? I can play this game too: this isn't your plugin either, and you should also stop taking credit for it, because you've stolen most of the source code directly from Web Browser Identifier v0.9, which is licensed under the GPL, and so you're violating the GPL, yet you're acting like this plugin is all copyrighted. I have no problem acknowledging that I've modified Fighter's plugin and improved upon it a little, but most of these browser/os postbit icons share the same GPL source code. This one for example has much code in common with yours:

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mod...x.php?mod=1515

I also think I should educate you, since you didn't even notice it was the old Chrome icon you were using, which means your perception is less than impeccable.

Listen, I'm trying to help out here, and I don't like your condescending attitude. There are some things you don't know, such as the fact that you're using the old Chrome icon.

No, I like it fine. Somehow you seem to think it doesn't need improvement, or you're simply not intellectually mature enough to understand constructive criticism (this is a common problem amongst many developers though, especially Linux developers).

Ok, that's the end of this mod on vB.org.

I wouldn't let 1 person discourage you, you have done some good work for vb mods :), just ignore and move on in my opinion.

That's good, I think you did the right thing in removing it, because you're simply not doing a good job. I'll improve upon "your" stolen GPL source code and modify it properly, and I'll upload it later when it's done, and of course I'll add the GPL license which you didn't. If you can't handle criticism then don't bother uploading plugins in the first place.

I'm not discouraging him. I was even trying to help him out, give him friendly advice, even recommended him using the icons I had spent time on resizing. I don't see how that's discouraging anything. The problem is that he has a childish and hostile mentality to any one giving him suggestions on what could be done to improve things. He could have just added two different sizes in icons, for example.

Also, it's quite pointless to remove the plugin from vbulletin.org especially when it has been downloaded 403 times, which means that someone will upload it somewhere else, if not here, then on rapidshare or similar sites. I think nhawk is behaving like a control freak over this. It's just a plugin for crying out loud.

I never claimed it was all mine. As a matter of fact...
http://snogssite.com/showthread.php?...fo-in-postbits

I don't mind suggestions, but in my opinion the level you took it to should have been done via a private discussion.

If you don't understand what the sprites are for, try looking into them. They are a good thing.

But, it's no sweat off my back. Either way, have fun.

If it's not all yours, then why did you act so proprietary over it when I suggested that I fork it?

I don't see the need for that, it's better discussed here so that everyone can see.

Are the sprites really needed? Like I said, the Simple Machines version doesn't use the CSS sprites, and it's working just fine.

I still think your behaviour is immature and childish. It's like, 'don't tell me what to do, don't talk to me that way, or else I'll take it down!!!!!', which is lame, and your 'don't educate me' reeks of a big ego who can't handle friendly suggestions. Chill dude, I'm just giving my two cents so that you can improve a good plugin.

Discussions are one thing, but the way you present information is like your way is the best and/or the only good way. That is not conducive to friendly discussions. And is what has resulted in me pulling this mod from vB.org. I've been around too long to put up with someone telling me that their way is better without presenting it in a civil manner and accepting my decision on if something happens or doesn't happen. Remember, the coder always has the final say no matter how much you disagree with them.

So far as sprites go, just about every page speed test around recomends using them. vBulletin itself uses them for a few things. Look into them, they are a good thing.