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zeropaid 08-17-2010 01:08 AM

Delete Posts as Spam Issue

1: vBulletin Version: 4.0.6 Patch Level 1
2: Browser: FireFox 3.6.8
3: Detailed description of the problem.

When I choose to delete a thread as "spam" I can go all the way to the the final VB screen but then nothing is deleted... Not even the post.

The screen that I end on is the "add a spammer" screen which is lacking CSS code.

When I check my logs, the user info is submitted but threads/posts are not deleted.

sas forum 08-17-2010 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2084948)
The main thing I am looking for is users who have:

1) A fresh, working vBulletin
2) Have decided to change modcp and admincp directories to something other than the default.
3) DO NOT RUN, OR HAVE NOT INSTALLED ANY OTHER ADDONS
4) Have installed the latest Spam-O-Matic.
5) Only have errors when Spam-O-Matic is enabled.

I deleted the mod, then changed my admin and mod directories to the original names that came with VB and reinstalled to see if i could take full advantage of this. I will let you know if i get anymore database errors. Thanks for the work on this.

cfish 08-18-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeropaid (Post 2085038)
Delete Posts as Spam Issue

1: vBulletin Version: 4.0.6 Patch Level 1
2: Browser: FireFox 3.6.8
3: Detailed description of the problem.

When I choose to delete a thread as "spam" I can go all the way to the the final VB screen but then nothing is deleted... Not even the post.

The screen that I end on is the "add a spammer" screen which is lacking CSS code.

When I check my logs, the user info is submitted but threads/posts are not deleted.

Exactly the same setup and exactly the same problem. Looks like the CSS is missing because of a PHP fatal error:

Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in /home/mydomain/public_html/forum/includes/functions_vbghsfs.php on line 438

Also, there seems to be something weird going on with the URLs on the Add a Spammer page. It appears to be a Stop-Forum-Spam page but all the URLs are local to my site. I guess that may be the source of the problem.

I would call this a "showstopper" because the only way of successfully using "delete as spam" is to turn off this product.

cfish 08-18-2010 12:57 PM

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/user/MrCADTut.../6/DvJV99T7cR0

This YouTube video illustrates the problem.

GlowHost.com 08-18-2010 01:24 PM

Thanks for the video, but I cannot duplicate it. I am not running 4.0.6 PL1 yet I am still on 4.0.5

So something changed in 4.0.6 or there are other issues involved. I will test it when we upgrade our boards or am still waiting to hear if others have this on any version besides 4.0.6

bchertov 08-18-2010 03:48 PM

Hi,

I'm still running 1.1.2 until 1.2.2 seems to have settled down.

I noticed an entry in the log citing an exiting user (a moderator!) who was probably doing some testing to reset her password via our VB 4.0.5 system password-reset-while-trying-to-login system ("forgot password").

The entry has her username, the email field is blank, message is a link that says " Found in Akismet Database. Held for moderation: " plus the first part of her post. Clicking on the link gives me an error "The requested URL /modcp/moderate.php was not found on this server." I have not renamed the moderator panel. I don't see any posts that need moderation (in the moderate posts admin panel).

What's happening???

GlowHost.com 08-18-2010 04:05 PM

Possibly do to the logging fixes that were done in 1.2. I can't really support old versions those are EOL.

As for not using 1.2.2 you might consider installing 1.2.2 then enabling it, then disabling the old version....and see how it goes for you.

There are no issues that I can duplicate on the 4.x series. 4.0.6 is the only
version untested and I will get to that later today, but then, if 1.2.2 doesn't work on 4.0.6 then neither should 1.1.2 anyways.

If it does not work then simply uninstall the new version and re-enable the old version. Just make sure to make backups of the old version in case you need to reupload to revert some of the older files.

GlowHost.com 08-18-2010 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfish (Post 2085751)
Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/user/MrCADTut.../6/DvJV99T7cR0

This YouTube video illustrates the problem.

I have just installed 4.0.6 PL1 and cannot duplicate the problem. This would seem to indicate your installation is corrupt or you have a conflict with some other mod, likely some mod that requires a manual template edit.

You might viw the readme for this mod, completely uninstall, the re-install it first.

If that doesnt fix your issue I would look into what mods have manual template edits. If none of them do, that will make life easier because to test where the conflict lies, just temporarily disable all mods except Spam-O-Matic and then test it again. It should work. Then start enabling the other mods 1 by one until you find the conflict.

Snookieboy 08-18-2010 11:33 PM

This mod was working perfectly for me on VB 4.0.6, until today when suddenly deleting spammers via the inline mod, caused the StopForumSpam Submit form to appear (usual behaviour) but after it submitting the spam, it didnt continue back to the Vbulletin forum and instead got stuck on the "Data Submitted" page. Anyone else just recently experienced this?

Edit/Update:
I turned off auto-submitting to StopForumSpam in the AdminCP options of this mod hoping it would be a work around until a solution could be found, however when I turn it off, I now just get a blank screen after clicking ban users (where it would normally submit the data). Disabling this mod fixes the problem

The weird thing is, I have been using this mod for a good few weeks now and its been brilliant, nothing has changed at all on the webserver, no new plugins.

Found this in the PHP Error Log:
[19-Aug-2010 01:38:13] PHP Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in \includes\functions_vbghsfs.php on line 438

Could this be related?

GlowHost.com 08-19-2010 12:31 AM

Well, if the mod didn't change, and was working fine before, and the forum didn't change, and was working fine before, and the server didn't change, but was working fine before....what changed? :)

Something has changed either in the codebase or on the server. Now we need to find out why that is because the problem you are having is likely the same reason as the others with the same error.

What happens with a fresh install of S-O-M? I'd like to know if the S-O-M code is being changed or if there is some other problem like a security hole in vB responsible.

Make sure to vies the readme for uninstall instructions before a re-install.

Snookieboy 08-19-2010 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2086068)
Well, if the mod didn't change, and was working fine before, and the forum didn't change, and was working fine before, and the server didn't change, but was working fine before....what changed? :)

Something has changed either in the codebase or on the server. Now we need to find out why that is because the problem you are having is likely the same reason as the others with the same error.

What happens with a fresh install of S-O-M? I'd like to know if the S-O-M code is being changed or if there is some other problem like a security hole in vB responsible.

Make sure to vies the readme for uninstall instructions before a re-install.

I really dunno dude, your Mod has been a big time favourite of mine and and really helped our spam problem, I did find a sort of solution. I downgraded to 1.1.2 and it all seems to be working.

I did find out that our server did change in one way, we did get a new ip for the web server, not that i doubt that would matter :S. But from watching that Youtube video from the guys posts above, it seems like I got the exact problem as him, except mine starting doing it randomly. Could it be a code change externally on Akismet or StopForumSpam, as the bug seems to happen when the data is submitted to them.

GlowHost.com 08-19-2010 10:56 AM

That is interesting, perhaps there is some communication error between your server and the service. Have you tried to disable the:

"Akismet: Auto-submit from Moderation Tools"
and
"StopForumSpam: Auto-submit from Moderation Tools"

Options to see if that fixes things up?

Snookieboy 08-19-2010 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2086250)
That is interesting, perhaps there is some communication error between your server and the service. Have you tried to disable the:

"Akismet: Auto-submit from Moderation Tools"
and
"StopForumSpam: Auto-submit from Moderation Tools"

Options to see if that fixes things up?

I have, but then it just leads to blank white pages at the same stage when it use to submit the data. The weird thing is, it doesn't happen in 1.1.2 so its something that changed perhaps? I had 1.2.2 installed and it starting happening yesterday, I fully uninstalled and reinstalled 1.2.2 and the problem still happened, then I uninstalled again, and reinstalled 1.1.2 and the error has gone.

The error message is the only clue I have as to the problems in 1.2.2:
PHP Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in \includes\functions_vbghsfs.php on line 438

intensecool 08-19-2010 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snookieboy (Post 2086262)
I have, but then it just leads to blank white pages at the same stage when it use to submit the data. The weird thing is, it doesn't happen in 1.1.2 so its something that changed perhaps? I had 1.2.2 installed and it starting happening yesterday, I fully uninstalled and reinstalled 1.2.2 and the problem still happened, then I uninstalled again, and reinstalled 1.1.2 and the error has gone.

The error message is the only clue I have as to the problems in 1.2.2:
PHP Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in \includes\functions_vbghsfs.php on line 438

I am getting same error on my side too.
What can be the issue here.

GlowHost.com 08-19-2010 03:47 PM

Do you guys that have this error have cURL compiled into your server's PHP?

Snookieboy 08-19-2010 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2086402)
Do you guys that have this error have cURL compiled into your server's PHP?

I didnt compile into PHP as I used a Windows binary, however cURL support is enabled in phpinfo and works, though i've tried turning off and on the cURL option in the AdminCP settings for this modification, same bug regardless of cURL being or not.

GlowHost.com 08-19-2010 07:08 PM

Version 1.2.3 is available which should solve this issue. Let me know how it goes.

kishorprins 08-19-2010 08:07 PM

To update, do I overwrite the files?

GlowHost.com 08-19-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kishorprins (Post 2086515)
To update, do I overwrite the files?

1) Uninstall the product from the product manager.
2) View the Readme file for how to install the product.

That is the best option.

Snookieboy 08-19-2010 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2086495)
Version 1.2.3 is available which should solve this issue. Let me know how it goes.

I can confirm 1.2.3 solved the issue for me :) I take it you found out the cause in the end? Thank you very much for the fix :)

Any consideration to my previous begging/request for the option to just block posts that contain keywords instead of sending them to Moderation?

Thank you once again!!!! :)

GlowHost.com 08-19-2010 11:35 PM

Sweeeeeeet!

That's great news.

Actually, yes, your suggestion is already on our bugtracker along with a few others. But I have to admit this version 1 mod took a lot longer and a lot more money than I anticipated to get it done right.

I am going to make sure that version 2 comes out... but it has 3 huge new features scheduled and I need a break before making a major version change. First I need to come up with the money, second I need to find the time to support everyone on a donated project like this.

I have a honeymoon (woohoo!) coming up and a business to run in the meantime. :)

What you guys and girls have now should get you by for quiet a while and significantly reduce the time you spend on cleaning up the baddies off your boards.

Hopefully that is all of the show-stoppers.

If you like this mod make sure to rate this mod, mark it as installed, and nominate us at some point for Mod of the month.

Surprisingly we have some low marks in the rating department. Some high ones would be good :)

GlowHost.com 08-19-2010 11:37 PM

PS

Snookieboy I am taking your feature off of our bugtracker until you at least mark the mod as installed. :)

zeropaid 08-20-2010 08:08 AM

The new version is working for me.

Snookieboy 08-20-2010 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2086599)
PS

Snookieboy I am taking your feature off of our bugtracker until you at least mark the mod as installed. :)

Such Blackmail! :P My other co-worker installed your mod originally on our board (whos now on holiday so I had to do the fixing) and I'm 100% sure hes marked you as installed, but seems you asked so nicely I've also ticked the box :P Giving you two installed ticks, for one actual install

What's the donation goal your hoping to achieve, and is there a price on the feature request?

GlowHost.com 08-20-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snookieboy (Post 2086783)
Such Blackmail! :P My other co-worker installed your mod originally on our board (whos now on holiday so I had to do the fixing) and I'm 100% sure hes marked you as installed, but seems you asked so nicely I've also ticked the box :P Giving you two installed ticks, for one actual install

What's the donation goal your hoping to achieve, and is there a price on the feature request?

Haha, thanks! I am sure you made up for one person that didn't mark it as installed :)

Our donation goal really is to just help get the GlowHost web hosting name out. Showing appreciation by signing up for our web hosting service is the biggest thanks we could hope for.

Speaking of which, I've made a coupon for members of this thread which will get you guys 3 free months of service to try us out. If you want it you can PM me. I am not sure if it is OK to post in this thread.

cfish 08-21-2010 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2086495)
Version 1.2.3 is available which should solve this issue. Let me know how it goes.

I can confirm that this version fixes the bug - thank you.

cfish 08-21-2010 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2084973)
Your bug comments are good to know cfish. In this case, hopefully you can wait until 2.x to get past these issues. Hopefully the trade off in reduced spam is worth it. In 2.x we will be removing those functions and making it one stop shopping from the postbit to delete, soft delete, ban etc so the need for admin or mod panels will be bypassed completely and productivity will be increased by just doing the dirty work on the front-end of the forum not the back.

I think that's a really good idea.

InsaneNutter 08-21-2010 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2086599)
PS

Snookieboy I am taking your feature off of our bugtracker until you at least mark the mod as installed. :)

I originally installed it, rated the mod 5 stars and marked it as installed ;)

TheSupportForum 08-21-2010 11:49 PM

how do i add someone who becomes a spammer after joining, just like the orginal MOD for this when you go into a users account it allows you to add them to the list from the IP address they signed up for or the IP they spammed from

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...=stopforumspam



this is a very importany feature this MOD had, you may want to contact them to find out how to add this section to user accoun information in admincp

howard007 08-23-2010 02:43 AM

Can you add a whitelist feature for IP? VBSTOPSPAM doesn't have this and this would be a great feature and not sure why no one has it?

Thanks

bchertov 08-23-2010 03:33 AM

I'm getting known user's posts (posts from well-established users on my board) being flagged for moderation because its "Found in akismet database".

i think there should be a setting for a minimum post count that defeats all spam checks, ie, if a user has posted more than x times, their posts are assumed to be not spam.

Jaxel 08-24-2010 12:07 AM

I have NEVER had akismet supply a true positive match on anything. It has ALWAYS returned false positives. First thing I did was disable akismet with this mod.

BadgerDog 08-24-2010 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchertov (Post 2088111)

i think there should be a setting for a minimum post count that defeats all spam checks, ie, if a user has posted more than x times, their posts are assumed to be not spam.

+1 ... :up:

Regards,
Badger

GlowHost.com 08-24-2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InsaneNutter (Post 2087282)
I originally installed it, rated the mod 5 stars and marked it as installed ;)

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by simonhind (Post 2087574)
how do i add someone who becomes a spammer after joining, just like the orginal MOD for this when you go into a users account it allows you to add them to the list from the IP address they signed up for or the IP they spammed from

this is a very importany feature this MOD had, you may want to contact them to find out how to add this section to user accoun information in admincp

Send me a screenshot of what you are talking about as its not immediately clear to me what the problem is.

If you delete the posts as spam, they can be automatically added to the list based on your settings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by howard007 (Post 2088104)
Can you add a whitelist feature for IP? VBSTOPSPAM doesn't have this and this would be a great feature and not sure why no one has it?

Thanks

Its possible we can add it. I don't see how useful it would be though.

GlowHost.com 08-24-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchertov (Post 2088111)
i think there should be a setting for a minimum post count that defeats all spam checks, ie, if a user has posted more than x times, their posts are assumed to be not spam.

I agree. It will be an option in 2.x

GlowHost.com 08-24-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snookieboy (Post 2084018)
Yeah sure, the old mod we use to use on VB3.8 was:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=184757

Dude, thank you so much for considering this, if we can just get it to deny posts with an error message instead of sending to moderation, it would save having to go through a daily moderation queue of over 100 posts! :)

OK Snookieboy, version 1.2.4 was made especially for you. Hopefully that is what you were after. :D:D:D

Snookieboy 08-25-2010 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2088869)
OK Snookieboy, version 1.2.4 was made especially for you. Hopefully that is what you were after. :D:D:D

DUDE, I love you (in a totally non-man love way), gee thanks so much!!! :)

I tested it, and it worked!! And even better, I noticed you used a phrase so it was easy for me to edit the default text to:

Quote:

Sorry, your post was denied because you are a new member, and are posting links to megaupload and/or other download sites which are typically used by spambots when posting illegal content or malicious files. Please re-submit your post without the URL by using your browsers back button. Alternatively, if you are posting good non-illegal content, you will need to have made at least 3 posts before your allowed to post download URL's.
Again, thank you so much.... Please share your donation goal so I can at least assist in some way :)

digicom 08-25-2010 10:43 PM

Installed version 1.2.4 on vBulletin 3.8.6 P1 and working great
Much apprciated :up:

GlowHost.com 08-26-2010 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snookieboy (Post 2089559)
DUDE, I love you (in a totally non-man love way), gee thanks so much!!! :)

Don't worry about it, life is too short even if you are into man-love. I am into spam-hate so at least we have something in common :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snookieboy (Post 2089559)
I tested it, and it worked!! And even better, I noticed you used a phrase so it was easy for me to edit the default text to:

Word

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snookieboy (Post 2089559)
Again, thank you so much.... Please share your donation goal so I can at least assist in some way :)

Just put the GlowHost name out, order hosting, join our $125 per sale affiliate program, or just tell your friends about this mod.

Anything you can do is great, Thanks.

BTW - Version 2 is the works now, We are running it on our forums and it is schweeeeeeeet!

Quote:

Originally Posted by digicom (Post 2089571)
Installed version 1.2.4 on vBulletin 3.8.6 P1 and working great
Much apprciated :up:

Great, thanks for the 411.

Not many people are reporting about earlier versions so that is great news. :) If there are any other reports, please tell!

Front Range 4x4 08-26-2010 10:29 PM

This caught my eye after opening registration today and getting slammed with bogus registrations. I have a very small user base by design and did it all manually but decided to make it easier. Oops, that went bad. Just installed this and will see how it does.


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