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boatdesign 10-23-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ywwz (Post 1904395)
when will they launch the version with CMS????
i am expecting it more than anything!!!


Same here - the new skin looks very cool, but I'm really looking for major new features like the CMS from a major version upgrade. I imagine it will come within the next month.

ywwz 10-23-2009 03:22 PM

More than 1200 users online now in sudden!!! VBB is awesome!

zlos 10-23-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ywwz (Post 1904409)
More than 1200 users online now in sudden!!! VBB is awesome!

Mine 3.8.4. has 9000 online users now, with 3500 logged in.

If 4.0.0 is dead with 1200 online... phew!

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Ooops!

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Site currently unavailable
The Jelsoft site you are requesting is currently unavailable.
Please check back shortly.

Mudcrutch 10-23-2009 03:51 PM

I feel like a broken record... but nobody has the new site cached yet. (css, etc.) So EVERYone is downloading it on pageload.

Their load right now is higher than yours.

It will speed up over the next few hours.

Dave-ahfb 10-23-2009 03:56 PM

that record is broke, meaning it just does not work. I saw it with only 23 people online, hit refresh on the main page a few times ...the speeds were identical to the current.

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Fatal error: Memcache is not installed in [path]/includes/class_datastore.php on line 183
As the confidence dwindles

zlos 10-23-2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudcrutch (Post 1904459)
I feel like a broken record... but nobody has the new site cached yet. (css, etc.) So EVERYone is downloading it on pageload.

Their load right now is higher than yours.

It will speed up over the next few hours.

I am using different nginX server to spit all graphics, js files and css files out. They're not. And it hits the production machine with jumping load. Simple rule to follow: split to spit ;)

Least but not last: none browser to my knowledge will cache their "css.php" header for example...

MrEyes 10-23-2009 04:11 PM

Well they say first impressions are the most important....

I like the navigation menu, I like it a lot... :D

Can't say much about the rest as I keep getting Site Unavailable :cool:, to be expected though - people are hammering it and nothing is cache either server or client side.

You know what bugs me the most though, the new "default" skin is remarkably similar to the custom skin I use now in 3.8. My members will kill me if I change it so I am doomed to being labelled as a lazy admin that couldn't be bothered to change the style. :rolleyes:

051119 10-23-2009 04:11 PM

It's up, but VERY slow for me.

I'm now getting the following message

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Site currently unavailable

The Jelsoft site you are requesting is currently unavailable.
Please check back shortly.

rgf207 10-23-2009 04:12 PM

Getting a database error every time I attempt to view the vb forums. Anyone else?

It seems like they rushed it getting this alpha out.

steven s 10-23-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rgf207 (Post 1904494)
Getting a database error every time I attempt to view the vb forums. Anyone else?

It seems like they rushed it getting this alpha out.

It's past alpha.

Dave-ahfb 10-23-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 1996 328ti (Post 1904495)
It's past alpha.

In name maybe, but in reality...


I am past the point of frustration and disappoinment, I am really begining to see quite a bit of humor in this.

Mandar Salvi 10-23-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rgf207 (Post 1904494)
Getting a database error every time I attempt to view the vb forums. Anyone else?

It seems like they rushed it getting this alpha out.

Didnt you read the announcement dude ? They are working on it. Increasing memory and other stuff. Estimated downtime - 30 mins. They are also updating their homepage. Have patience buddy :)

BigDog56 10-23-2009 04:27 PM

It keep getting cannot connect..Edit; And no, I didn't read the announcement, lol

Dave-ahfb 10-23-2009 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandar Salvi (Post 1904500)
Didnt you read the announcement dude ? They are working on it. Increasing memory and other stuff. Estimated downtime - 30 mins. They are also updating their homepage. Have patience buddy :)


They have to install more memory with the new software they installed....there is a confidence builder lmfao!

This is looking worse by the minute

john1744 10-23-2009 04:33 PM

Yeah I'm not sure why they didn't just copy the site, do the upgrade behind the scenes then swap out the two when they knew it was working right.

Isn't how their own staff server expert tells how to do it?

Dave-ahfb 10-23-2009 04:40 PM

Never put your butt in the air and your head in the sand, you may find yourself with a pink slip ;)

Bounce 10-23-2009 04:45 PM

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Your enthusiasm is overwhelming - back in a bit!
vBulletin Community Forum
Some folks enthusiasm for buying it will be getting low :eek::D

Never know maybe there also updating it to Version 4.0.0 Beta 2

rgf207 10-23-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandar Salvi (Post 1904500)
Didnt you read the announcement dude ? They are working on it. Increasing memory and other stuff. Estimated downtime - 30 mins. They are also updating their homepage. Have patience buddy :)

Of course I know what's going on. It doesn't change the fact that they rushed this. It's still in alpha even though it says "beta" and they rushed the release since they obviously could not handle the traffic.

Patience stops after a few hours of downtime. It's going on 36 hours. It's not very professional. As I said in a previous post. I'm an I.T. Admin. Had one of my upgrades turned into a 36 hour downtime, I would have been fired.

Floris 10-23-2009 04:58 PM

it's up again.
oh it's closed now.
I am sure it will be up again soon.

choccyclaire 10-23-2009 05:03 PM

They aren't installing more memory coz of the forum software. :rolleyes: They are installing more memory coz of the increased traffic now.

Elenna 10-23-2009 05:03 PM

Can't wait, myself. :) I sympathisze with their technical troubles, and hope that they are learning a few things that will help with the appropriate upgrade scripts and documentation.

zlos 10-23-2009 05:05 PM

I was waiting over an hour to write it on vb.com:

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Quite a lot of things require a makeover.

- class/div naming will make your life horror when embedding forum into your existing site (is it REALLY so difficult to name all vb-css classes with vb_ at the beginning?)

- speed (as we see not astonishing)

- css instructions hidden after css.php file

- ugly menu

- white message boxes on white background with lightblue links make it looks light but it reads not so... I need a microscope!

- SEO with Archive? Don't you know doubling content get penalties from search engines?

- IE 7 & 8 incompatibility (I think yuiloader got crazy a bit)

- load hits / memory hungry / res eating program? Is the time of 18MB of RAM for php a past? How much now? Do I need to worry?

I don't see something really worth (user-side) to jump on vb4, quite a lot of problems for admins and possible costs for owners. Am I wrong?

My opinion: wait a while. A month. A year? The poll results: 20% only like vb4. It is the disaster, Jelsoft Gentlemen, every's project manager nightmare...

Not to forget to mention: I am a very happy owner of 3.8.4, run upto 10.000 users online and use globals.php for a lots of my own developed software.

And I know by my own experience, that sometimes the better is big enemy of the excellent.

Conclusion: DO something. Please!

Skierpetros 10-23-2009 05:06 PM

I am seriously thinking not upgrading and keeping the vbulletin 3.8.4 ... if the new vbulletin 4.0.0 don't impress me ... i would not renew my license...

boatdesign 10-23-2009 05:10 PM

I expect they'll be doing major performance tuning throughout the betas, so I'm not too alarmed about them having to increase memory at this early point.

In the end, I'm hoping and expecting that 4.0 will be more efficient than 3.x.

I assume that was the whole point of a major rewrite vs. just releasing new skin and features as 3.9 without the need to redo all mods, etc.

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Originally Posted by Skierpetros (Post 1904529)
I am seriously thinking not upgrading and keeping the vbulletin 3.8.4 ... if the new vbulletin 4.0.0 don't impress me ... i would not renew my license...

When I saw the forum still down this morning, I had similar thoughts. But wait and see how it goes. It's early for 4.0 and I'm glad they're working through the bugs and giving it a real-world spin. The bumps in the road now may be a good thing long-term.

Speysider 10-23-2009 05:15 PM

Will we still be able to get older vB versions when we pay for the license? Or only vB4.0?

TNCclubman 10-23-2009 05:15 PM

So vB4 is a memory hog? I thought they were making it more efficient?

Skierpetros 10-23-2009 05:16 PM

its open now...

JVCode 10-23-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by boatdesign (Post 1904532)
I expect they'll be doing major performance tuning throughout the betas, so I'm not too alarmed about them having to increase memory at this early point.

In the end, I'm hoping and expecting that 4.0 will be more efficient than 3.x.

I assume that was the whole point of a major rewrite vs. just releasing new skin and features as 3.9 without the need to redo all mods, etc.

My thoughts exactly.

EidolonAH 10-23-2009 05:18 PM

I think they are working really hard to meet us half way with our demands to see v4 before the pre-sale ends, I for one really appreciate their efforts.

bairy 10-23-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Morsolo (Post 1904272)
The problem is, there isn't really any alternatives...

I'm not so sure about IPB; and all the free ones are horrible...

Sure there are, it just depends what you need and how much you're willing to customise.

The free ones aren't as well featured as vB, true, but then vB has a lot of features that a lot of users simply don't need.

I'm willing to bet that if everyone who owned a license looked at what features they need/will ever use, a fair few would realise a free alternative has just the stuff they need.
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From what I saw of vb4 when it was up, the design isn't any better or worse than the default vb3 design, not keen on the tiny menus though. And I looked in on edit options which is a horrible horrible page.

Coupled with the "buy it now, but you can't see it yet" they aren't coming out of this looking professional. But we are still in beta so maybe they'll produce some magic in the coming weeks.

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Originally Posted by EidolonAH (Post 1904544)
I think they are working really hard to meet us half way with our demands to see v4 before the pre-sale ends, I for one really appreciate their efforts.

That is what they are doing, but they played silly buggers with this pricing "strategy". They shoulda waited until they had something to show at least.

Skierpetros 10-23-2009 05:23 PM

<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?321707-Vbulletin-com-4-0-0-First-Look&p=1816069#post1816069" target="_blank">http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...69#post1816069</a>

Discuss in vbulletin.com here!

golfing123 10-23-2009 05:38 PM

I saw the new vbulletin.com support board and some forums were very at the end of the screen on that support board

zlos 10-23-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Skierpetros (Post 1904547)

I'd love to, but it's down. Again.

beishe8 10-23-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by zlos (Post 1904575)
I'd love to, but it's down. Again.

Whoever is logged in can browse_post there.


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