Sad to say but seems this hack should find its way to the graveyard.:(

Although it would be nice to see it developed further, it does work on 3.7. I'm using it very effectively on a small forum with about 200 subscribers.

it's running on my test board for 3.8

Are you sure you did the file edit?

It's still in development, no eta of course, because I do have so much I'm doing. But it's not forgotten :)

I am running EI with 3.8.1.

I just left it installed when I upgraded to see what would happen. It seems to be working fine.

I did have a problem with html emails and disabled that feature some time ago.

This is a very important feature for a subset of our users who are too busy to open their browser and face the distractions of the message board. We use it in committee discussions where we need those people's inputs.

The problem with HTML emails is that you didn't redo the file edit in the instructions.

When you upgrade you have to redo any file edits as they new files you upload overwrite them.

I have just posted the code for the vB 3.6 version of EI Mod 2.6.1 BETA to delete the message from the mailbox if the first 100 characters are identical compared to the last post made by the user. This is a lifesaver when users go on holidays after setting up an autoreply which is not caught by the holiday/out-of-office rule in your EI mailbox.


Details:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...23#post1785423

The code works using the old message format, without delimiters, but it may be possible to adapt it to work with the new format, too.

I'm still running EI 2.3.1 and want to upgrade to 2.6.1. Where can I find the list of file edits that were made to redo them? I can't seem to find my downloaded version of 2.3.1 to now backtrack.

Hi Cyricx,

I have installed your plug-in. It sends notification mails and receives posts are all ok with my Internet e-mail account.
But when I use it to receive posts from an Microsoft Exchange e-mail account, it returns failure to me.
I tried all the mail server connection types in the dropdownlist, but still error.
Do you have any comments on the connection to an Microsoft Exchange e-mail account? Many thanks to you!

Here are my configuration place and the result of running my email task.
Attachment 98816Attachment 98817

They are included in the zip.



If none of the drop downs are working, then most commonly this is an issue with the username, password and domain name. Find out from your provider what settings you need to enter to use outlook express, and you can mimic those. Sometimes it's mail.yourdomain.com sometimes its yourdomain.com
and the username is sometimes just yourname and other times it is yourname@yourdomain.com

It really varies greatly on the provider. There is a script included that you'll find linked in your admincp that tries some of the typical combinations and tries to help you determine the settings.

Hey Chris,

Is it possible to create a delay of 1-2 minutes before posts via the web based forum are sent out to email subscribers?

Thanks,
Kevin

It uses the mailqueue system if you have it enabled in your vbulletin options -> email options.

Keep in mind, it can create significant stalls in emails being sent out if you enable that too well. If you set it for 5 messages at a time, and 100 people are subscribed to a forum then it can take a LONG time to get all of those messages out if your forum doesn't have alot of foot traffic.

Hi, Cyricx.
Where could I find this script? I tried to find in my admincp, but did not get any result. Please show me the path, thanks.

This is what I want to do as well. It's a PITA to check hundreds of emails from all these groups to see what they are doing. It would be so much easier to see them right inside my forum. Plus, then my site staff can see them as well.

From best I've gathered, this plugin works by comparing the sender's email with a user on the forum. If the user matches, it posts. If it doesn't, it doesn't post. So one way to get a yahoo group or google group mirroring is to create a user account for each of the users on the group, right? This way, the plugin will find the appropriate user and post under their name. Is this assumption correct?

My thoughts on how to get a email list posting is to forward the originally received email, which has the original sender's email addresss (not a forum user by default), to an account which is a valid forum user, a "bot" for all practical means, which then forwards it to the forum email. Because the "bot" is a valid user on the forum, the plugin will check the originating email and find it to be a valid user, but the content of the email will actually be from the email list. Does this make sense? Would this work?

Most mailing lists send the email as coming from the individual user. so all of those users would have to be added.

This plugin is not built or made to be able to mirror a list.

It's made with the sole intention of replacing one. :)

I really wish I could get these groups to get off of these cheesy free hosts, but I can't. :( I've even offered them their own sub-forums and forums, but still nothing.

So until I figure out a solution to consolidate each of these groups' postings into a place, I have to wade through all the emails on the lists via email versus searching forums. :(

Do you believe my system of forwarding would accomplish what I wish to do? This will require a lot of forwarding and auto-responders to be set up and tested, but does it at least look good in theory?

And after thinking about the plugin, I'm planning to also run it as-is for having my own site's very own email list. :)

As mentioned, it will not work unless as someone is added to the mailing list.. they are added as a user.

This would be a management nightmare.

If any email address was not a valid user, they would get email messages from the site.

The mailing lists you encounter set the reply-to, but they do not change the "from" sometimes they will change the representation of the from. But typically, in the header information, that is not changed.

So. No. It would not feasibly work and unfortunately it's not something I plan on coding as it would be irrational to have both running. Those free hosts all have a board system there.

The primary argument I've used in convincing those that use them to switch is who owns the servers.

They may be using those boards but the servers are owned by that free host and they can allow that information to be released to anyone at any point in time.

In moving to a vbulletin hosted mailing list, you have sole control over the information and who can access what.

In your admincp, you should have a box on the left side for "email intetration" click on the arrow to open that up and click "forum settings help".

If you do not see that in your admincp, you did not upload all of the files. :)

I think I may not have explained what I was trying to do thoroughly. I really don't care about replying back from the forum or having any of my forum members even see the postings. I just want to have the emails in the email list post into a forum so that way I don't have to check them in my email.

There are several groups that I have to keep tabs on that use email lists, and if I was able to have their emails come directly into a forum, I'd never have to leave my main site to read everything. Your plugin introduces the possibility of doing this since an email can post to a thread/forum.

Based on this idea, do you think that the system of forwarding emails from the list would get them simply posted into the forum?
I completely agree with this arguement, and the subject of intellectual property rights is overlooked by so many. But I'm in the southeast US and these people really don't understand the implications until it hits them. Today, I even had a staff member post our unique and original material on youtube. :rolleyes:

I'm sorry..

I really don't know how I can be more clear then that.

If everyone on the list was not a registered user on the forums. It would NOT post to the forum and they would get an email with an ERROR.

If you want to go through and create a user for every single person on the list and each time someone is added create a new user. More power to ya. However...

This would be a management nightmare.

This system is not made, and I personally will not be coding it in such a way as to accomplish what you are asking.

*shrug* :( I'm kinda at a loss for how to explain it any better. Feel like I'm just repeating myself endlessly hehe :)

More power to ya in your struggle with them though :)

I think I'm still not getting my point across. :( I'll make an example.

Let's call a group "A". This group has an email list. I set up an email address that will subscribe to the group on my server, let's call it "eA". This email address does not tie to a user in vB. I have eA subscribe to the email list of group A. So the email address eA is receiving the emails from the email list of group A.

I completely understand that even if the email addresses eA is a user on vB that it will not post because the send to header on the email list of group A contains the real address of the sender, who more than likely is not a registered user on vB.

So to circumvent this problem, I set up a user on vB called robotA. This user has their own email address, rA. Now, because rA is an email address with a valid user on vB, rA can post via email to the forum that uses EI.

Then I set up a forwarding on my server that forwards the emails that eA receives to rA. This changes the send to header. Then rA forwards this email to EI, which also changes the send to header. Because the send to header now matches a valid vB user, EI will process the reply.

Thank you for the previous quick replies and I look forward to your thoughts. :)

I understand fully all the different ways you could do this.

What your suggesting is no different then creating a second yahoo group to backup messages from the first.

Pretty frickin pointless.

How do you reply to messages? Users on your board may not be on the yahoo group list.

All the messages will appear to come from the same exact person.

If messages are editted or email chains deleted from the yahoo group, they will not be deleted on your forum. So you have massive information discrepancies there as well.




I'll say it one more time :)

This modification is NOT made to work WITH a mailing list.

It is made to BE a mailing list in and of itself!

It turns one of your forums... into a mailing list.

Any attempts to integrate with an existing group mailing list, like yahoo groups, will create major discrepancies, errors and confused users.

If you want to backup information from a mailing list... search google. There are download programs for just about every free mailing list to make backups of the messages.


I'm sorry to be so abundantly blunt but I don't seem to be getting the message across. :)

*hugs*

Hi,
Sorry to ask again...but I will...:p...will this mod be made available for 3.8 at some stage?

Or, is it worth while installing this version in the hope that it will work okay?

Cheers,

Ian

Thank you for your patience and replies. I know how seeing someone use your creation in a skewed manner can be unnerving. I've been there.

To specifically answer some of your questions:You don't. We don't want to reply. This is just "read-only" for staff.
Doesn't matter. All we care about is the content inside the message.
That's fine. This is all just information that we're going to be reading. If it gets outdated in a week, it really doesn't matter.

In the explanation of how I was planning to have groups' messages posting to a forum, I completely forgot to explain how the forum users would use it. The quick answer is--the forum users won't.

We do not reply to the groups' lists. We are subscribed to find out what the group is doing since they don't disseminate the information by other means (web site, traditional forum, etc.). The EI forum would only be visible to forum staff. The staff can view the messages posted from the group. They can't reply and can't post. That's the extent of the use of the EI forum.

So that's the why. Now, the question is the how. In theory, would the system which I described above work?

Did you ever fix these issues?

Hi, just installed on 3.8.2 and seems to be running fine...thank-you...great mod!

Can anyone tell me if there is now a way of admin turning on the 'instant e-mail notifications' for any entire pre-existing usergroup...? Obviously I can go into each user one at a time and set this up for them...but I would rather do it all in one hit if at all possible?

Be gentle with me...I am still learning...:p

Cheers,

ian

Has anyone used this mod consistently in order to have pictures shared via a mobile device yet? I know that some folks were close and/or doing it but encountering some issues. Any success stories that can be shared?

when i enable email integration my forum goes blank. I've asked for help a few times. Is there anyone that can help?

Thanks...

This is the error I get.

I'm using php 5 & MYSQL 5 with the 2.6.1 beta. Please help this time. It's been a few months.

And then when I try to update the allowed forums I get another error:

<font size="3">CAN I Get Some Support Please? It Has Been Months Since I First Asked.

Lordy...</font>

Sorry, do not expect support for this beta version. "Last Update: 29 Feb 2008"
I would like to use this great hack but because of the teething problems with it, I can't.

Well that is a huge problem because there is no version that works with 3.8...

Unless someone else knows of a version that I do not.
2.6 returns the exact same errors.

Cyrix... uninstall/reinstall isn't working.

Can I get some help with troubleshooting please?

Hello, I am attempting an install of this mod - (vb - 3.7.6)

I am upto step 4 - (find $headers .= preg_replace("#(\r\n|\r|\n)#s", $delimiter, $uheaders);
unset($uheaders);)
in the includes/class_mail.php file.

however those lines are not to be found? Where can i find those lines of code?
thanks

Many appologies - i found it.

helllloooooo?????

Reporting this mod as UNSUPPORTED.

I wasn't aware we could do that. :rolleyes:

I think that's sorta like a citizen's arrest :)

oh hahaha... taunting is always cool.

Well lets see. I asked for help months ago.. your taunting.

I asked for help a few months ago... your taunting.

I asked for help a few weeks ago... your taunting.

I asked for herlp a days ago... your taunting.

Fact is I was polite and courteoues. The developer basically ignored all of my pleas and hasn't respond to me in all these months except once.

And you know that these things can be reported. We've all seen others take over support of a mod that isn't being done farily or that it changes to "unsupported".

Facebook Connect would be one such mod...

If I have to wait more then 7 months to get a simple answer or even remedial support then it shouldn't be supported.

I am personally tired of asking for help and not getting any. I do appreciate the taunting tho. let's me know what type of character you have.

BS aside. If this were really supported I wouldn't be typing this right now. Laugh at that.

I think my point is that I don't believe vB.org ticks the Support option based on requests. And that Support has always been at the discretion of the author. It's an arbitrary thing that you shouldn't really take all that seriously, because literally anything could be happening to the author, where he intends to get back, that he can't. Sickness, work, loss of internet connection. I couldn't support my mods a few months back there because my grandmother died and right afterwards my daughter started keeping me up with frequent nighttime seizures and I wasn't getting any sleep other than during the day. I didn't have time to come on and tell everyone why I wasn't around or even really considered ticking the box in each of my threads as something particularly pressing. My situation is not uncommon, nor the only reason a person could have for not getting back online. There are thousands.

So, yeah, I made my comment humorous. I think it's kind of humorous to raise a fuss over support of a free mod, made in the free time of someone offering a product as is and, as the policy of the site says, at your own risk. Would you have preferred I raked you over the coals with angry words and a lot of capital letters? I think I was being rather benign.