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richier 11-30-2006 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dartho (Post 1065526)
There in may lay the problem - there is no "$imagereg" See template code below:

I added in a $nospamfield just above this, and it all came togther - thanks!

Code:

                        <if condition="$show['regimagecheck']">
                        <fieldset class="fieldset">
                                <legend>$vbphrase[image_verification]</legend>
                                <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="$stylevar[formspacer]" border="0">
                                <tr>
                                        <td>
                                                $vbphrase[enter_text_image_right]
                                        </td>
                                        <td rowspan="2"><img src="image.php?$session[sessionurl]type=regcheck&amp;imagehash=$imagehash" alt="$vbphrase[registration_image]" width="201" height="61" border="0" /></td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr>
                                        <td><input type="text" class="bginput" name="imagestamp" size="50" maxlength="6" /><input type="hidden" name="imagehash" value="$imagehash" /></td>
                                </tr>
                                </table>
                        </fieldset>
                        </if>




I have tried everything and I can't get the mod to work. VB 3.5.4

I instlled the mod as directed and followed the directions listed above and it never shows up.

I really want to stop the spam. I get 10-15 new spam members per day

Smoothie 11-30-2006 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richier (Post 1128687)
I have tried everything and I can't get the mod to work. VB 3.5.4

I instlled the mod as directed and followed the directions listed above and it never shows up.

I really want to stop the spam. I get 10-15 new spam members per day

Cause I think this is for 3.6, maybe. ;)

richier 11-30-2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoothie (Post 1128744)
Cause I think this is for 3.6, maybe. ;)

Look on page 3 theres a mod for 3.5 :alien:

Smoothie 12-01-2006 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richier (Post 1128765)
Look on page 3 theres a mod for 3.5 :alien:

Well, go re-read page 3 again. Nobody got it to work w/ 3.5.x. :rolleyes:

richier 12-01-2006 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoothie (Post 1129086)
Well, go re-read page 3 again. Nobody got it to work w/ 3.5.x. :rolleyes:

Yes they did by adding a line in the register temp. go read then come back

makaiguy 12-01-2006 09:10 PM

Haven't had a single new spammer registration since installing NoSpam!

I managed to find the pieces for doing this in 3.5.4 by scouring the whole thread. But to save some of the rest of you some trouble:
INSTALLING IN VERSION 3.5.x
  1. Download from here:
    https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....6&postcount=36
  2. Modify 'register' template per this post:
    https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....6&postcount=40
Don't forget to actually turn it on in the options (accessed via your vb options) in addition to enabling the plugin.

Top Nurse 12-03-2006 03:18 AM

Think I am came up with a simple solution to our Spanish/English forum as the hack doesn't allow for a translation of questions in vB. We just add the same question in Spanish to each English question and use the two different answers the hack can utilize. Then it doesn't matter what language the reader is using. :D

Red Matrix 12-05-2006 10:05 AM

Installed easily, turned it on, had fun with the questions! Great hack.

I find it keeps out the dummies, too.
How many continents are there?:7:seven
GMT stands for Greenwich _ Time:mean
How many letters in this question?:28
Four squared divided by 2, then add 2:10:ten
What's the cube root of 27?:3:three

Smoothie 12-06-2006 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Matrix (Post 1132319)
Installed easily, turned it on, had fun with the questions! Great hack.

I find it keeps out the dummies, too.

LOL

Smoothie 12-06-2006 02:00 AM

A suggestion for future versions, not sure if it could be implemented or how hard it would be, but this would bust the bots balls for sure. After say "X" number of tries (configured in the admin cp of course) at answering the questions and not getting any of the tries correct, the user/bot/spammer gets locked out of the registration page. Just like users who try to login with a wrong username or password.

flynnibus 12-06-2006 02:39 AM

installed: thanks so much!

dakar 12-06-2006 08:27 PM

Installed :) Thanks, much better than click this or that image... too easily defeated, even through trial and error a robot would have a 25% chance of getting it right with 4 images.

Ingmar 12-06-2006 09:19 PM

Thank you antialiasis! Keep up the great work!

*Clicks Install and MOTM*

phpdevrus 12-07-2006 06:53 AM

wow excellent. was looking for something like this. optimally we should have random verification tests ;-) to make it hard to randomly bypass.

lazytown 12-08-2006 12:51 AM

Awesome!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH. Spam bots just started coming on strong today.

I'm sure this will stop them -- and even if they are humans it will annoy them and they may have a hard time answering certain questions (esp if their English is bad!)

Works on 3.6.4 and 3.5.x with the modifications noted.

-vissa

Smoothie 12-08-2006 01:15 AM

Quote:

Enter questions and answers for NoSpam! in the format Question:answer1[:answer2:answer3] etc.
Does this mean you can have more than one answer for each question? Either would be correct?

lazytown 12-09-2006 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoothie (Post 1134237)
Does this mean you can have more than one answer for each question? Either would be correct?

Yes, that is correct. More than one possible answer. By the way, as far as I can tell it's not case-sensitive so you don't have to worry about that.

-vissa

Smoothie 12-09-2006 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vissa (Post 1134915)
Yes, that is correct. More than one possible answer. By the way, as far as I can tell it's not case-sensitive so you don't have to worry about that.

-vissa

Good deal, thanks a bunch.

Sore Eyes 12-09-2006 07:03 AM

Hi Antialiasis,

are you still thinking of adding support for the silly question in the search and the 'contact us' functions of vB?

Or is there anyone else who applied the hack there and can help me?

Thx a lot

SportsZone 12-09-2006 07:06 AM

Installed and works flawlessly, thanks :)

Maxman1544 12-09-2006 10:57 PM

This has been a life saver. Haven't had to delete one new user since this was installed. The spammers were out of control!

Thank You!!!

Hardcoreweather 12-10-2006 12:25 AM

Those March 28th 1983 accounts can now be a thing of the past . Thanks

antialiasis 12-10-2006 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sore Eyes (Post 1135036)
Hi Antialiasis,

are you still thinking of adding support for the silly question in the search and the 'contact us' functions of vB?

Or is there anyone else who applied the hack there and can help me?

Thx a lot

Hmm, I've got a lot to do these days, but yes, I was working on that and was in fact very close to finishing it - I got it working perfectly on the Contact Us form and for guest posts, but the search was being annoying. I should start messing around with it again in my Christmas break.

Smoothie 12-11-2006 12:13 AM

How about adding a feature where a guest has x number of attempts to answer the question(s) and if it can't be answered within that limit it locks them out of the registration for x number of minutes. Now that would be awesome.

antialiasis 12-11-2006 03:37 AM

Well, such a thing would always be easy to bypass unless one went into some major IP-checking - you can lock people out of logging in because you can block logins for the account, but for registrations, there is no foolproof way of knowing whether two registration attempts are being performed by the same user; you can of course plant a cookie, but few things are easier than deleting cookies, and then all that would be left would be using some sort of careful tracking of the IPs of registration attempts, which I think would just be a major headache to code for very little benefit - especially if you have multiple questions, a script that attempts random letter combinations in hopes of getting the right answer by chance would just take way too long for such an awfully small benefit - spam registration at one forum - that they wouldn't bother making such a script and instead just let the bot turn to some other victim that doesn't have this hack installed. In the spam industry it's all about posting as many advertisements in as little time as possible in as cheap a way as possible. Making things very difficult for them, as this hack does, will simply mean they will turn somewhere else; they have absolutely no motivation to attack your forum rather than that neighbour forum that's much easier to attack, and as such they're going to attack the other one because it takes less time and thus maximizes the profits per day.

For short, I think your board is quite safe from spam even if the bots get an infinite number of attempts.

GTAce 12-11-2006 03:42 AM

I just wanted to say, this is a brilliant idea for a mod. I used to not have much of a problem with spambots, but the last few months have been horrible...We'd average 1-3 spambots per day and sometimes as many as 5 or more. I hadn't installed any extra protection because from everything I had read, the spambots were even finding ways around these mods...but I've been following your mod here and it looked to be pretty foolproof, and so far, it is. I've been running it for a few days now and haven't had a single spambot register..Without this mod, I probably would have had 10 spambots if not more since then.

Great work and let's hope I'm not speaking too soon :)

Skatiechik 12-11-2006 08:17 PM

Has anyone got this to install on 3.5.2? I haven't tried, but one of the adminstrators has, and followed the template change, but still gets lots of errors apparently.

dartho 12-11-2006 10:27 PM

Haha! Die you spamming Rusky!

Still no spammers since installation :D

@SkatieChick - I have this running under 3.5.4 which I would imagine to be minimally different to 3.5.2
Install the XML from this post: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....6&postcount=36
and then in the Register template, search for the line:
PHP Code:

<if condition="$show['regimagecheck']"

and add
PHP Code:

$nospamfield 

immediately above it

Perhaps AntiAlais can add this to the install instructions?

antialiasis 12-12-2006 01:02 AM

Version 2.0 at last! The NoSpam! functionality has been added to guest searches, guest posts and guest "Contact Us" as well as the original registration. To upgrade, just download the new zip file and import the new product through the Admin CP with Allow Overwrite set to On.

An "official" 3.5.x version is coming as well as soon as I've gotten 3.5 to install on my test board and can mess with making the template edits automatic.

PoetJA-1975 12-12-2006 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antialiasis (Post 1136772)
Version 2.0 at last! The NoSpam! functionality has been added to guest searches, guest posts and guest "Contact Us" as well as the original registration. To upgrade, just download the new zip file and import the new product through the Admin CP with Allow Overwrite set to On.

An "official" 3.5.x version is coming as well as soon as I've gotten 3.5 to install on my test board and can mess with making the template edits automatic.

AWESOME! Anyway that you can get this to work on the Quick Register form as well?

Thanx - especially for the 3.5 version ;)

Excellent mod!

Jacquii.

blankoboy 12-12-2006 02:10 AM

antialiasis, this is such a simple yet fantastic hack for VB. Not only is this good for spam prevention but also great as an aptitude test for your forum userbase.

Right off the bat you can help to eliminate casual trolls by asking for answers to semi-intelligent questions :rolleyes: . Well, it can help to filter out folks who are not completely intune with the topic of your forum if you so choose. Keep up the great work!

antialiasis 12-12-2006 02:34 AM

Quick Register form? Where is that exactly? o.o

Quantnet 12-12-2006 03:06 AM

Great news. Updated. I tested and it works great. Now, only if you can offer an option of multiple choice for the questions.

schanulleke 12-12-2006 11:44 AM

:banana: THANKYOU ! I am very happy to see the update you posted today. I will install this later today, but I am sure this will work out great.

Thank you very much for your time and effort!

EDIT: it works. Thank you!

Skatiechik 12-12-2006 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dartho (Post 1136676)
Haha! Die you spamming Rusky!

Still no spammers since installation :D

@SkatieChick - I have this running under 3.5.4 which I would imagine to be minimally different to 3.5.2
Install the XML from this post: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....6&postcount=36
and then in the Register template, search for the line:
PHP Code:

<if condition="$show['regimagecheck']"

and add
PHP Code:

$nospamfield 

immediately above it

Perhaps AntiAlais can add this to the install instructions?



Ok cheers, I will give this a try and see if I can get it to work myself. However can you be more explicit in your instructions please.

Reason being I more familiar with phpBB and this the first mod I will have added to VBulletin.

I have worked out the .xml files needs to be imported via the product manager to install them.

Just done that, you talk about editing the register template, is that via ftp in a folder somewhere, or is it accesible for the ACP?

Cheers.

makaiguy 12-12-2006 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antialiasis (Post 1136772)
Version 2.0 at last! The NoSpam! functionality has been added to guest searches, guest posts and guest "Contact Us" as well as the original registration. To upgrade, just download the new zip file and import the new product through the Admin CP with Allow Overwrite set to On.

An "official" 3.5.x version is coming as well as soon as I've gotten 3.5 to install on my test board and can mess with making the template edits automatic.

Version 2.0 update works wonderfully in my 3.6.4 test board, including guest searches and 'contact us' (I don't have guest posting).

Thank you so much. I've turned Captcha off all together now.

... now I've just got to find time to update my 'real' board to 3.6.4 ...

Skatiechik 12-12-2006 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skatiechik (Post 1137076)
Ok cheers, I will give this a try and see if I can get it to work myself. However can you be more explicit in your instructions please.

Reason being I more familiar with phpBB and this the first mod I will have added to VBulletin.

I have worked out the .xml files needs to be imported via the product manager to install them.

Just done that, you talk about editing the register template, is that via ftp in a folder somewhere, or is it accesible for the ACP?

Cheers.

I just fumbled around a bit in the dark, and figured out what you meant by edit template. Added the line to the customised template and all seems to be working. Not sure what the other admin had issues, with best go ask incase I have done something wrong :) Looks fine to me though.

subzonline 12-12-2006 03:11 PM

thanks i requested this a bit ago. and im glad to see it is here.

scootman 12-12-2006 05:54 PM

Click Install... Thanks

tobias_t 12-12-2006 06:49 PM

I installed the plugin under 3.5.3 and made the change to the template, but the NoSpam field still doesn´t show up on the register page. Users who try to register do however get an error message for not filling out the (invisible) field. Any suggestions?

Thanks, Tobias


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