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friendly 06-06-2006 05:00 AM

I concur. You and stangsta really seem to be on top of things -- yet I suggest you take your time to create a great product.
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chief
Damn, I really appreciate your efforts, keep up the good work, when you estimate we see a demo or beta working?


vBintense 06-06-2006 05:01 AM

We just want it right, and easy to add on to.

Remember when there was add on's for modifications? Well that is something that is being thought of before hand, something where others can add to it with relative ease.

With a good core, and flexible coding it will allow others or perhaps even inspire others to make add ons for it when its done sort of like adding modules for portals.

friendly 06-06-2006 05:11 AM

I own two domains that you might want to consider naming this project after and use for future development. I have one that would be perfect, but I'm already using that for my own project. ;)
I'll pm you both with the names. One has the word date in it, but it's more like a calendar date than a romantic date.

vBintense 06-06-2006 05:36 AM

Ideas are always welcome.

We have not even discussed the name to indepth.

Benj 06-06-2006 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBintense
Demo will not be able to show for awhile, due to a few facts, one I am coding it on local host for now and another is due to I do not have a spare vb lic to use on this project.

Screens may come rather soon though, once the part I am working on is where I wish it to be things will speed up rather fast.

ive got a spair one if you want to use it;)

edit * obviously i want it back like

criscokid 06-06-2006 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by friendly
Hmmm... would that entail using subdomains? I use a number of subdomains on my site already. What if a user chooses a username but the subdomain is already in use?

You just enter those subdomains into your list of 'not-allowed usernames' so nobody will be able to create a username that matchs those words.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBintense
The url/name will actually end up working like the ones on myspace , where the user can make a 'nick' to be called by , check availability and then implement it.

Isn't that going to confuse people - then they'll have a forum login name and a 'chosen username'.

MySpace users use their email addresses to login with - vBulletin uses usernames.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBintense
Demo will not be able to show for awhile, due to a few facts, one I am coding it on local host for now and another is due to I do not have a spare vb lic to use on this project.

Create a PayPal button so we can all donate a bit towards a license.

The Chief 06-06-2006 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by criscokid
You just enter those subdomains into your list of 'not-allowed usernames' so nobody will be able to create a username that matchs those words.


Isn't that going to confuse people - then they'll have a forum login name and a 'chosen username'.

MySpace users use their email addresses to login with - vBulletin uses usernames.


Create a PayPal button so we can all donate a bit towards a license.

I think there is a mod or something that let's users login using their email :)

vBintense 06-06-2006 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by criscokid
You just enter those subdomains into your list of 'not-allowed usernames' so nobody will be able to create a username that matchs those words.

Exactly but can do that with alias they choose as well.
Quote:

Originally Posted by criscokid
Isn't that going to confuse people - then they'll have a forum login name and a 'chosen username'.

I would not think so, there are hacks out to make alias's on forums and no real troubles.
Quote:

Originally Posted by criscokid
Create a PayPal button so we can all donate a bit towards a license.

Actually nothing monetary has been even though of or discussed in this project. While I think the idea has merit I personally belief it to soon to even consider due to it is in core code at this time. Maybe a donate later, will have to discuss with stangsta.

KevNJ 06-06-2006 05:04 PM

How about a " whos viewed my profile" just like this one?
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=91772

also a mass email/pm/bulletin can be done like this mod/hack.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=100314

but those are further down the line.. just thought id mention them.

glad to see this moving along nicely.

cheers!

The Chief 06-06-2006 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevNJ
How about a " whos viewed my profile" just like this one?
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=91772

also a mass email/pm/bulletin can be done like this mod/hack.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=100314

I think we will be able to use the one that is currently released :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBintense
I would not think so, there are hacks out to make alias's on forums and no real troubles.

Well with this we are limited to using Apache, if we have our forums installed on lighttpd (like I have), we can't use it :(

vBintense 06-06-2006 05:08 PM

Quote:

Well with this we are limited to using Apache, if we have our forums installed on lighttpd (like I have), we can't use it
Dont worry as most things it will be optional. So the admin can decide.

The Chief 06-06-2006 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevNJ
also a mass email/pm/bulletin can be done like this mod/hack.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=100314

This can also be used currently with your board.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBintense
Dont worry as most things it will be optional. So the admin can decide.

Great, thanks for keeping up :)

KevNJ 06-06-2006 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chief
This can also be used currently with your board.


yea i use both of those currently on my boards. they work great. just thought someone they can be intergrated into this hack and be able to be controlled from one admin page, instead. oh well though. :)

hmm.. what else what else.. lol;)

The Chief 06-06-2006 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevNJ
yea i use both of those currently on my boards. they work great. just thought someone they can be intergrated into this hack and be able to be controlled from one admin page, instead. oh well though. :)

hmm.. what else what else.. lol;)

Let's let them a bit of time to get the initial release actually released ;)

KevNJ 06-06-2006 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chief
Let's let them a bit of time to get the initial release actually released ;)

maybe they could ask the coders of those hacks to allow them to "plop" the code in this hack ?! :confused:

side not... plan on sharing that " featured profile" hack you have running on your board?

The Chief 06-06-2006 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevNJ
maybe they could ask the coders of those hacks to allow them to "plop" the code in this hack ?! :confused:

side not... plan on sharing that " featured profile" hack you have running on your board?

It's not a hack, it's plain HTML :D

friendly 06-06-2006 07:38 PM

Chief, your etalk profiles are pretty nifty. Seems like you should be helping to code this project. ;)

A bookmarking or favorite sites feature will be nice.

-- and the ability to make a profile private (but not for admins) -- or is that pushing it?

SuperFly 06-06-2006 08:59 PM

Guys...the first release will be a basic one, features may and or will be added in other releases, but lets just get the first one out., and ideas please pm VBintense, Stangsta or myself.

Shaliza 06-06-2006 10:09 PM

Yeah, The Chief has cool looking profiles. They don't like like vB at all.

The Chief 06-06-2006 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by friendly
Chief, your etalk profiles are pretty nifty. Seems like you should be helping to code this project. ;)

A bookmarking or favorite sites feature will be nice.

-- and the ability to make a profile private (but not for admins) -- or is that pushing it?

I rather not, they needed coders, I just modified templates.

vBintense 06-08-2006 04:58 AM

Today I started moving everything over to a vB 3.6 install, this way there is no issues later from it.

The Chief 06-08-2006 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBintense
Today I started moving everything over to a vB 3.6 install, this way there is no issues later from it.

I guess that's good, what features have you gotten through as of now? :)

Stangsta 06-09-2006 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chief
I guess that's good, what features have you gotten through as of now? :)

Please be patient. Information such as that will be released when the time comes. If a feature was to be completed at this stage, it may or may not make it to the beta, so there is no point in discussing at what point the hack is at. vbintense, superfly or myself will let you know when something has been completed if we feel it is signifigant enough. If this thread becomes a "whats the ETA" thread etc., then we may have it closed and wait till the release thread.

The Chief 06-09-2006 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stangsta
Please be patient. Information such as that will be released when the time comes. If a feature was to be completed at this stage, it may or may not make it to the beta, so there is no point in discussing at what point the hack is at. vbintense, superfly or myself will let you know when something has been completed if we feel it is signifigant enough. If this thread becomes a "whats the ETA" thread etc., then we may have it closed and wait till the release thread.

Daily updates are always welcome ;)

Stangsta 06-09-2006 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chief
Daily updates are always welcome ;)

True, but not required or to be expected.

If there is an update we feel is signifigant, we will let everyone know. But trying to "extract" updates will only be counter productive so to speak.:bunny:

The Chief 06-09-2006 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stangsta
True, but not required or to be expected.

If there is an update we feel is signifigant, we will let everyone know. But trying to "extract" updates will only be counter productive so to speak.:bunny:

haha, yes yes, I also wanted to make a suggestion: Let the user delete his/her own profile. :)

vBintense 06-09-2006 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chief
Daily updates are always welcome ;)

I do try to give daily updates, although you must rememer some days not much gets done, where other days a bit does.

Also try to remember we want this out as much as you do, but rushing the code would be bad at the end of the day.

The Chief 06-09-2006 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBintense
I do try to give daily updates, although you must rememer some days not much gets done, where other days a bit does.

Also try to remember we want this out as much as you do, but rushing the code would be bad at the end of the day.

True, but from the updates you gave us earlier you seemed like a pretty steady coder, so I just assumed you kept the same pace :p

vBintense 06-09-2006 02:30 AM

It depends , I also do custom work, and work a job remember we all have bills. So alot of factors in how much I do per day.

If it was up to me I would put 3 to 4 hours a day on it, and at times do. Also think on it alot thru out the day to different ways to do things in it to make it more flexible.

The Chief 06-09-2006 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBintense
It depends , I also do custom work, and work a job remember we all have bills. So alot of factors in how much I do per day.

If it was up to me I would put 3 to 4 hours a day on it, and at times do. Also think on it alot thru out the day to different ways to do things in it to make it more flexible.

That's awesome, just to let you know I am behind you and I am sure alot of people are, you might be seing this product on some pretty insane sites ;)

vbreal 06-09-2006 07:48 AM

SHOW ME THE DONATE BUTTON!!!

This is great. I have so many users that come from myspace and leave because the forums seem to hard to them. Where to go to change your avatar, your sig(whats a sig) ha Don't see how it is so hard for them but it is. To have something more user friendly would be great and improve how long new members stay to give the message board a chance.

I have been asking for this for about 2 months now. Is there anyway you can include in your mod a way for the private messages to resemble myspace or at least have the person avatar next to the PM. The PM section is soooooooo boring. But have it where if a person has avatars off it wouldn't show in the PM area. Some users are at work and want things as simple as possible.

I know you say this is free. But you guys deserve something for your efforts. Nice to see Stangsta in such a giving mood. I remember when i had to pay for his help with my member profiles.

DannyITR 06-09-2006 12:32 PM

Hi guys,

I just found this thread after reading and finding out the scam that was vbspace. I have a really sour taste in my mouth at the way those people handled themselves but I won't turn this into a hate on vbspace thread even though they deserve it.

I'm so happy that you guys are spending the time to create a decentralized version for us poeple who do not want to share their memberbase. As was just said: SHOW ME THE DONATE BUTTON!!

Most of my suggestions have already been mentioned but I would like to repeat them:

- capability of username.domain.com

The will really create a sense of the user having their own space on your site. Its easy and fun to put in signatures on other forums and in email and even works to draw other people into your community because who wouldn't want a website domain with your name in it. Its just a cool thing to have.

- photogallery

This is perhaps the most important feature to me. I run a car site and I will be using this hack to allow people to post pics of their cars and have them rated. I know there is a hack called vbgarage for this purpose but its really lacking in features and I don't want to touch it.

- customizable searchable user entry fields

For the car site I need people to be able to choose their make and model of car form a dropdown menu and have it searchable. I'm not sure what applications this might have in a non car site. Perhaps if I wanted to search for someone who's main interest was sports or politics lets say?

- members displayed by rating, most views, date registered, posts, interests, car, in ascendng or descending etc....

This would be a great way to find members your looking for and that releate to your interests (or in my case your type of car).

- users can group themselves together and start clubs.

Useful for car sites because there are so many car clubs and my site is a great place to offer them free picture hosting and a place to organize themselves. Clubs could also have their own private forum which they can choose to make public or not. You know it might be cool for non car sites too. I'm a member of a politics site where paying members have their own private forums and can invite people in and such.

The rest of the features are pretty basic things of social networking sites like what The Chief already posted in message 82 of this thread.


My main competitor is a site called monchar.com (french for mycar.com..its worth a look). They use a custom solution and its amazing. They went from nothing to greatness in under 2 years. I'm limited to my VB existence so I'm hoping this hack might bring my site at least on par with them.

btw I'm trying to figure out what the differnece is between this hack and the myspace profile re-write?

Stangsta 06-09-2006 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Real Talk
Nice to see Stangsta in such a giving mood. I remember when i had to pay for his help with my member profiles.

Well yeah, when someone wants me to fix problems on thier site or install hacks etc, of course im going to charge. My spare time is valuable to me and at the same time, I enjoy the work.

amykhar 06-09-2006 03:42 PM

Please guys, knock off the donate button stuff for now :D Save it for when a mod is released and working.

NO MONEY TALK IN THIS THREAD. NONE. Please. Help save my sanity and help actually keep DEVELOPMENT conversation going. I don't want to have to keep reading every word of thread to make sure that it doesn't go south like the other one. Please. just keep the conversation on the features and the code.

Amy

vBintense 06-09-2006 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amykhar
Please guys, knock off the donate button stuff for now :D Save it for when a mod is released and working.

NO MONEY TALK IN THIS THREAD. NONE. Please. Help save my sanity and help actually keep DEVELOPMENT conversation going. I don't want to have to keep reading every word of thread to make sure that it doesn't go south like the other one. Please. just keep the conversation on the features and the code.

Amy

I agree fully, money should not even be an issue to any , it is not to us this is for the community, and for our communitys as well.

The Chief 06-10-2006 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBintense
I agree fully, money should not even be an issue to any , it is not to us this is for the community, and for our communitys as well.

Yes, let's not talk about money until the hack is released :)

toolblast 06-10-2006 03:30 AM

Hi Chief, Stangsta, DannyITR. I agree 100% with VBintense's initiative.

VBspaces really pumped us all up, and I would like to put in a quick two cents. Myself and many other VB users (Chief and Stangsta especially) were posting like crazy on the VBspace hack thread and we were supporting it all the way. For Danny to turn it around into some centralized service and scrap the whole idea of releasing a public hack with full source code to everyone who has been patiently waiting, I find that to be a big slap in the face. I like the Zoints idea, but I hate how it was presented in a very tricky manner.

Basically, any features that were in the old VBspaces discussion as well as the features DannyITR meantioned, I would be happy with. Basically make a single hack that lets users customize sweet looking profiles, is one of the biggest features. Very feature-rich ajax-driven user profiles that have a big emphasis on social networking, friends/buddies, and discussing with friends, as well as creating groups.

Thats what I would really want, and was expecting from Danny, until the recent news about Zoints.

What do you guys thinks??

KevNJ 06-10-2006 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toolblast
Hi Chief, Stangsta, DannyITR. I agree 100% with VBintense's initiative.

VBspaces really pumped us all up, and I would like to put in a quick two cents. Myself and many other VB users (Chief and Stangsta especially) were posting like crazy on the VBspace hack thread and we were supporting it all the way. For Danny to turn it around into some centralized service and scrap the whole idea of releasing a public hack with full source code to everyone who has been patiently waiting, I find that to be a big slap in the face. I like the Zoints idea, but I hate how it was presented in a very tricky manner.

Basically, any features that were in the old VBspaces discussion as well as the features DannyITR meantioned, I would be happy with. Basically make a single hack that lets users customize sweet looking profiles, is one of the biggest features. Very feature-rich ajax-driven user profiles that have a big emphasis on social networking, friends/buddies, and discussing with friends, as well as creating groups.

Thats what I would really want, and was expecting from Danny, until the recent news about Zoints.

What do you guys thinks??


I believe thats what is planned. Although not a full blown mod right away. Going to release things to get started and then add to them or allow other coders to make "plug-ins" to add to this hack/mod. But I dont believe it will be ajax driver like zoints ( although I do like the zoints ajax system, just not centralization of it ).

Stangsta 06-10-2006 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevNJ
I believe thats what is planned. Although not a full blown mod right away. Going to release things to get started and then add to them or allow other coders to make "plug-ins" to add to this hack/mod. But I dont believe it will be ajax driver like zoints ( although I do like the zoints ajax system, just not centralization of it ).

You sir are correct :)

AJAX "may" play a part towards the end of the final release, but im not going to lie....dont hold your breath.

@toolblast
Please don't blame Danny for anything, he is helping code that project. He does what is asked of him as you would if your boss at your job would ask of you. Danny had a vision and an idea, and others ran with it and included him.

toolblast 06-10-2006 05:07 AM

By the way, how come certain discussions on Zoints are being closed by admins and not given a straight answer? And why was the old VBspace thread COMPLETELY TAKEN DOWN. If it was closed I'd be ok with it, since the hack discussion is over, but ERASING IT from member's view is not cool. I heard it was because of talk of it being a commercial hack. Thats not true, it was always said to be free, and the final service, Zoints, IS free. Hopefully it is still there and just changed permissions while the admins "review" it, because I want to go over that thread and make a large list of everything us, VB.org members, discussed and said we wanted in that hack so that I can compile a list of features that we can talk about when making our own VBspaces hack the way it was supposed to be done.

If an admin can respond to this, please do!

Oh, I am not blaming Danny for everything. Far from it. Danny started the thread, but he became part of the Zoints project, so he isn't the sole person incharge. As you said, he is a coder (and a superb one at that) who is just following orders.

I had a LOOOOONG MSN chat with the new owner/founder of Zoints tonight (in the past 3 hours). He answered a lot of my questions and has made it clear the direction and vision that Zoints is headed as well as talk about the publically released version. I will not make any official statement on what we discussed in the chat, as David (whom we know as "d1414") said he would make an public statement of his own when the time feels right.

If you'd like to chat, just PM me.

I'll be checking this thread daily. Keep updating us VBintense on any progress! :D


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