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Seiken 05-02-2006 11:14 PM

I voted yes because nobody even supports there mods reason enough to archive it...

archiv {Check It}

Sean S 05-03-2006 03:35 AM

I would agree with vb2, but why vb3? tell you the truth I haven't really seen a reason yet to upgrade to 3.5. vb3 works just fine, I could care less about the Ajax system in the 3.5.

However, I agree that it should be archived once vb4 is out :).

Darkfire122333 05-06-2006 10:31 AM

I still say that vB 3.0 should stay as-is. vB 2.0 should become free and have all hacks, etc, put to a different forum for the free board (Allows Non-AJAX board, and helps bring publicity, and pre-features to what they can get for 3.0 and 3.5) and make it so that they can still monitor the users, via, keys, or something, so that they need the key to download the hacks, etc. I am just making a suggestion. I do not want to see vB's hard work down the drain. If they do decide to Archive 2.0 will we be able to disect the board and do with it what we please? (that is my question) Because I would be willing to dissect the board, Edit it a little bit, and set it for a freeware on my own forum (will use the actual 2.0 too) and have the modifications etc on there? I would just need help getting an install hack like vb has now on 3.5 to allow them to install/uninstall hacks on the fly. How does that sound to you guys?

COBRAws 05-07-2006 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkfire122333
I still say that vB 3.0 should stay as-is. vB 2.0 should become free and have all hacks, etc, put to a different forum for the free board (Allows Non-AJAX board, and helps bring publicity, and pre-features to what they can get for 3.0 and 3.5) and make it so that they can still monitor the users, via, keys, or something, so that they need the key to download the hacks, etc. I am just making a suggestion. I do not want to see vB's hard work down the drain. If they do decide to Archive 2.0 will we be able to disect the board and do with it what we please? (that is my question) Because I would be willing to dissect the board, Edit it a little bit, and set it for a freeware on my own forum (will use the actual 2.0 too) and have the modifications etc on there? I would just need help getting an install hack like vb has now on 3.5 to allow them to install/uninstall hacks on the fly. How does that sound to you guys?

I dont think making it free is a good idea. Because you will make popular a Software name but with less utilities as the Actual SW. I mean, a lot of new people will realise about a new forums software and test it, but then go away for phpBB or something with more utilities because vB 2.x lacks of them.

If you make something free, at least make a demo version, like vb3.5.x as a demo, with a lot of restricted aplications. For example in the Thread tools some legend that says "Upgrade and you could do this and this and this".

I dont know if i was very clear. Sorry for my english.

kall 05-07-2006 06:43 PM

This thread is definitely NOT about making the actual software free, or doing anything at all to it.

It is about whether the hacks for said software are archived, on this site.

Xorlev 05-08-2006 02:33 AM

I would venture to say vB2 is currently better than anything phpBB or most free forums have to offer. If this was a vote to make vB2 free, I'd support it. Just think...you give a mouse a cookie.

Asi9ine 05-09-2006 02:36 PM

Why not boost awareness of vBulletin by making a very watered-down version of vBulletin 2 available for free? phpBB and IPB did it, and there are probably more InvisionFree and Forumer forums out there than vBulletin ones. It was rubbished in this thread, but it's achieving nothing by rusting in the corner. When was the last time vB actually updated 2.x?

vBForFree.com or something? It would make members see that they are getting this great product for free, yet they know that for 80 dollars out of their pocket, they can get the whole version.

Please consider it. I wouldn't ever use it, but the majority of forumers (wannabe Admins, lets say) aren't even old enough to have a PayPal account.

Darkfire122333 05-09-2006 02:46 PM

Exactly my point! vBulletin would me ranked number one overall becuase it would have the number one suport for free and payed boards!

http://twwarez.be/index.php? <-- not what you think.. it's what i have set up in a short period of time to make them notice what it could look like for a free board.. notice how,i changed everything to "free". I got bored so i decided to do a little more editing and make it 1.0.. thats just me so dunt mind that :P

(yes it is a pirated board, and i made it here so they know it was soley for this purpose only, please do not ban me or anything, I just wanted to show you what i meant... just tell me when to take ti down and i will immediately!)

Asi9ine 05-09-2006 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkfire122333
Exactly my point! vBulletin would me ranked number one overall becuase it would have the number one suport for free and payed boards!

http://twwarez.be/index.php? <-- not what you think.. it's what i have set up in a short period of time to make them notice what it could look like for a free board.. notice how,i changed everything to "free". I got bored so i decided to do a little more editing and make it 1.0.. thats just me so dunt mind that :P

(yes it is a pirated board, and i made it here so they know it was soley for this purpose only, please do not ban me or anything, I just wanted to show you what i meant... just tell me when to take ti down and i will immediately!)

Ah, that is the problem we have.

Support. A whole new community would be asking (no, demanding) for support, and the Staff here who already help the paid members, will have their workload doubled.

And the other thing: that kind of proposal would be best suited to vBulletin.com. This is an unofficial site, so there's a chance nothing will be read by them.

rjordan 05-10-2006 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean S
... tell you the truth I haven't really seen a reason yet to upgrade to 3.5. vb3 works just fine, I could care less about the Ajax system in the 3.5. ...

Many would say the same about vB2. Again, my opinion, until Jelsoft stops offering it as a downloadable package, it should be left alone.

Kirk Y 05-10-2006 09:59 PM

vB2 archive -- but not vB3. I'm sure there are still loads of people that use it.

Floris 05-15-2006 07:55 PM

Yes, and 3.0 as well, however, I can imagine that coded forums on 3.x don't upgrade that quickly. On the other hand, not offering 3.0 mods pushes them into the next generation.

FleaBag 05-18-2006 10:47 AM

Ditch vB2. I don't care if people are still using it - I don't pay for my license so mods who should be developing my product have to waste time supporting a dinosaur. Yes I understand that some sites will lose features if they upgrade, but you know what... Tough luck! They've had years to upgrade - nomatter which hack they have I'm sure they could pay for a 3.5 conversion - they should take on that cost if they really need the solution. Time for the 2 series to go.

kira 05-18-2006 10:02 PM

Bolding mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FleaBag
Ditch vB2. I don't care if people are still using it - I don't pay for my license so mods who should be developing my product have to waste time supporting a dinosaur.

Uh, we're talking about archiving vB2 on vb.org, remember? Tell me, which vB.org moderators developed your product? And which of them are "wasting time" on us poor beknighted fools still using one of the best community software solutions ever created? Personally, I haven't been helped by any of the vB.org moderators here in a vB2 thread for years, and I haven't exactly seen them bustling around in that area. So exactly how they're "wasting time" is a mystery.

No, VB2 isn't a dinosaur. It's an extremely powerful product that people paid good money for ... the same cost as VB3, in fact. I pay my $30 annual fee for support along with the rest of you. Why on earth should supporting those who purchased a product that still remains perfectly functional be considered "wasting time"?

Jesus. I just don't understand people who get hostile over stuff that's no skin off their ass. Don't like seeing vB2 forums? Hide 'em.

King Kovifor 05-26-2006 06:12 PM

I visit so many vb 3.0 and 2.x boards so for those, they should stay.

Chousho 05-27-2006 12:42 AM

I use VB 3.X, and have no use using 2.X on my site. However, that is me. There are plenty of people who are using VB 2, so why should I take away their rights for the same things I enjoy?

I say keep it until we know noone will use it.

Ziki 09-02-2006 09:03 AM

So will it be removed?

Guest190829 09-02-2006 12:19 PM

You can exclude catagories via:

Quick Links -> Edit Options -> Exclude Catagories -> Check the catagories you do not wish to appear.

Also with the new layout it really isn't needed...

Closing this thread as it is old.


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