Keep up the good job guys.

No, it's not safe to say that, as it's not that much ready..it still has kinks to be worked out, then packaged up for a Beta.

I, personally, still don't have access to the development board yet, so i'm not sure how many bug's have been squashed thus far.

- Tyler

First of all, I will thank all developers for this hack again..You guys put some time and your eforts just to help and be noticed your names as developer..In my mind, I don't see any other reason, if you don't make any money for this..Becasue thats what I was doing past 3 years in my forum.. :) (not making any money)

As far as I see, you guys just need a public board..I have one of the biggest forum in vbullerin with 150.000 members..They will test it for sure.. :) So, I will purchase you guys a vb license and provide a ftp access for your board..It will be yours..I am not going to ask any future made donations that you deserve..I will be so glad to be part of this hack too.. Thats what we need right? :)

As I said, I want to be part of the hack so the board licensed is going to be purchased for X.turkforum.net domain..And it is not all..You guys will be able to creata any kind of your future hacks in this forum..Sometime,I will ask you guys a hack iI need..And, I will pay what I asked..I won't mind that you sell this hack or not later..

Is it enough to start where we left for UShop? :)

Ps: I keep my words thats why I write it here..

$$ sent.. lets hope it rocks once released ..

there is new in the contact uShop ??

Just wanted to let Revan,TyleR and PixelFx know, that i dont think everyone share that same opinion that Regs wrote here.

All off you deserves credit, fore taking up this hack as a project.
Good luck boys. Il send some money, but its not the best month. But everything helps im shure. ;)

Learn to read and type properly and you might not have to waste peoples time.

what do you want?
i from israel
i am not good english
then,relax hurry

@Lottis: Thanks :)

@nir: obviously there's nothing new..asking every 24 hours wont change the answer until a release is posted.

- Tyler

thank you

Has there really only been $60 donated to this?

At the time of writing this, yes. Though I think soon another $30 will be added, had to deny the payment due to the fact that we cannot accept Credit Card payments (Unverified Paypal account).

Time to dig up posts from people that talked amounts... LOL

this ia taking such a long time, i mean ucash was finished in the middle of june, and it was said that ushop wouldnt be much longer, that was like what, 7 months ago, and almost two months since the current group had to put the "finishing touches" to it. It's obviously not an ideal situation so why does the group not stop waiting for something to fall out of the sky and give them a board and just take someone up on their offer of using their board or whatnot, just to get it finished.

Decado's right. Yeah, if it was Zero Tolerance, he could have get it done in like 10 minutes! :D

Zero Tolerance rocks. Keep up the good work with Ushop guys hope its avaliable soon

Whoever said that is wrong, the so-called "finishing touches" is converting it to vB 3.5 as well as fixing up the bugs we can find. The meetup is going to be held tonight, after which the development will start.
It would also be coded in a style unreadable to humans, as well as running 600 queries to update the bank. If that's what you want... oh it isnt? Then just wait. kthxbai.

Im fed up to here with people complaining about how long this is taking. Regardless of some misconceptions running out there, this isn't a 10 minute job. Yes there's unwanted delays, but that's what to be expected when you hand a large project over to a completely new team of coders that have yet to meet, as well as standing without a licence.
So what if we use someone else's board. Not only would they have complete access to parts of the forum we do not wish them to have access to, but they would also have the option of destroying the forum at any given time. Im not accusing anyone, as I don't know any of the ones who offered personally, I'm just looking at it from the other side of the coin.
Whine about my people skills all you want, I still got a right to be pissed off over all this complaining.

And people wonder why modifications go paid or unreleased... sheesh...

Then at least, could you give us an exact date when it's gonna be released? Like next month, couple of days...?

Year 2020?

Nah, I will stay on vB 3.0 thanks.

My coding skills have drastically improved since I got mixed up with a group of guys and let them do all my work. Since I started my own, I coded a professional website and customised vBulletin. So you would think that would warrant letting me in on the project? Apparently not. Zachery and Link(Insert loads of numbers here) don't return my PM's, and when Link returns my IM's, he is either ridiculously rude or fobs me off with crap like "yeah, [something about doing something later]" then I just leave. I don't expect the Store to get done at all, so I will be staying on 3.0. It is all well and good saying "Nah, none of you pay for this, it's free, so shut up". If you PROMISE something, it has to be done, no matter if it's free or worth 200 bucks. You might be sick of all the requests for it, but we are sick of the promises that are given out, we are sick of the threads devoted to it, we are pretty much annoyed that the work on it has stopped because the people originally working on it cannot seem to finish it, and (the most annoying thing is coming up) that they won't let insiders in.

I'm not well-known here. That is fine. But I am competent, and I even asked Link if I could have the files off him (THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE) and finish the project myself. But as before, fobbed off. So people, don't expect it to arrive.

Sorry Revan, it's good of you to pick up the remains of a dead project, I am sure the more saintly patient members here appreciate your help a lot, but the rest of us are just bored with the waiting. I am sure I speak for a lot of people here.

Can you give me an exact release date for a project you are cooperating with two other people on, people whos development speed is unknown to you, as is the amount of work that needs to be done?

There was no reason to say that because it can surely happen. :rolleyes:

From the First Page of the thread

"The uShop code is just about ready for a BETA test, it just needs to be packaged, documented, etc. Which will be the responsability of the new coders."

Thats where we got the finishing touches from. seems all you guys had to do was test, package and document it... Unless you're saying zachery is a liar?

EDIT : and you say they could destroy stuff etc etc, wellout it this way, even if you jsut get a few weeks on it and someone screws you, so what? you got a few weeks and lost nothing of any importance, since its just a private test. Or you can continue not using any forums and get how much... lets see... no work at all done. Your intelligence astounds me. Really, it does.

Then I guess I was mistaken, I haven't looked at the code due to not knowing what version control system we would be using.
Matthew said (afaik) that he'd want nothing to do with it anymore because it wasn't fun to him anymore. So why he told you to sod off isn't rly the concern of the uCS dev team nor does he speak for the team anymore. Any promises / deadlines put forth from him is null and void.
If you got enough time to work on this project actively, and code as per the vBulletin Coding Standards etc yada yada then I don't see why you can't join the team.
I'll be sending you an email right about after I finish this post.

If it was nothing but a private test board then we could just use the "vbtest" part of the licence couldn't we.
And Zachery said that if we could get together enough for a Leased licence, I am to send the money to him and he will make sure it remains active until enough dough comes in for it to be upgraded to an Owned licence. To which it lacks $20.
Now if youll excuse me, I have an email to send.

EDIT: That is, I would have had I been able to send him emails :p

Uh Revan, i noticed you ignored my proof that it was almost done... can you tell me if you are lying, or if zachery was? People deserve to know whos been feeding them lies, surely...

Well I believe everyone has a right to their own opinion, positive and negatve, but I do not believe it is in anyway fair to publically display negative opinions towards someone who has directly done absolutely nothing towards you, but ofcourse life isn't fair, and I'm not here to make enemies so I have no direct comment back towards you, what was said was uncalled for, so I have no reason to respond to it in the same manner.

Good luck with the conversion, I know how it feels to have a lack of time to do something which is in direct demand, but I'm sure these people will get what they seek before they realise it...

- Zero Tolerance

There's the answer, I should have used the quote tags when answering you. My bad.

Rly.
I don't remember ME promising 2 months ago to have something done the day after. If you are referring to Matt then as I stated he no longer speaks on behalf of the uCS dev team.
I'll give you a detailed list of what has happened since I first joined this project:
When I joined, I were first just "another dev". I didn't know much about what happened with the area51 (public dev board) licence, so I asked Zak if I could have Admin and FTP access to the board so I could update it (as it's still running on RC2). I was then told that Matt pulled the licence when he left.
I then asked so I could just get the development process on the move, because even if just the developers had access, it would still be more than just our localhosts. Zak is a very busy guy, so nothing happened. I then grew tired of waiting so I talked to Zak and then gained the responsibility of organising the whole thing.
At this time, Christmas was approaching. I figured it would be pretty dumb to expect the other developers to take breaks from their RLs to come to a meeting, so I decided to wait until after New Years.
And that leaves us where we are now. With nothing to show for the community and a meeting being held in about 2h 45 mins.
So it's two months since December started is it.

Were has eXtremeTim posted this message you are quoting, Revan?
I do think that Revan would have some trustwith Zachary, since he gave him this projec. :ermm:

He deleted it, though I had the page opened in another tab so I still saw it and was able to reply to it.

I cant see that you have made some bad comment about ZT.
Why not let the coders do there work and give them some pease?
Its not there foult that the original coders set the date sutch early point as they did.

This is new stuff and they probably need time to figure things out.
Give the boys some space and credit. They are the only one that was willing to step in, so why sutch anger? If someone think they can do better, why dident they?

Originally Posted by eXtremeTim
Im starting to wonder if you even know how to code. I mean the port up of this I could have done in no time. I ported up bigger and more complex custom vbulletin modifications in a few hours. So whats taking so long?

This is interesting. Why dident you do that then?

Holy hell people..just because you have you're own opinions about how "easy" this should've been, doesn't mean it actually is easy..you don't know all the new code Matthew (Link17416) put into the code since his last release of the combined uCash/uShop.

Don't like how long it's taking? Well, i'm sorry, but it's not going to speed up just because you wish to whine about it.

Grow up people, b!tching and whinning really isn't going to do much here..personally, i just laugh at the people who whine and crap..just quite funny..if you havent successfully ported this from 3.0.x, don't speak negatively whatsoever, as you have no clue the extensive coding already finished by Matthew before he dropped the project for this very reason (b!tching).

- Tyler.

Lottis coders need permission from the original creators to do that, that is why.

and

"It would also be coded in a style unreadable to humans, as well as running 600 queries to update the bank. If that's what you want... oh it isnt? Then just wait. kthxbai."

Is what revan said about ZTs work after someone said ZT would have done it quicker.

Thank you,Decado. I couldent see whats wrong with that. But thats why im not a coder. ;P
I just cant understand why the boys who tryies to finish this, get so mutch negativ comments. And why suddenly everything is soooooo easy to creat.
Where was they, when Zachery was asking if anyone was interesting in this project?

probably working on other projects at the time. I know that ZT is and has been working on inferno, and before that he ported a lot of hacks over to 3.5, and done VB shout, vb radio, inferno quiz, rpg inferno 2.4, inferno warning system etc etc, and I dont doubt the other commenting coders are the same. I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two make a new store hack because their members and they got fed up waiting for this one, but its always better to try and get the original port completed first, than start from scratch on your own product.

wow, such hostility?

The guys that are complaining i suggest that if your in such a hurry to get this mod done go and pay $400+ to get this done privately.

Raven has started the ball rolling, he has arranged a meeting which is most probably been held as i type this and hopfully the guys can get to work on this. Remember you have paid nothing, you have contributed nothing. So dont expect everything. These things take time.

Raven, just a heads up. Dont listen to these negative people. They are just a handfull of the people. There are most probably 100s of your supporters here that are 101% behind you and your decisions. Take your time.

Thank you
Martyn

Well, the meeting that was supposed to be held 13 hours ago went in the schitter :P
TyleR and KrisV1 got the timezones mixed up, and Pixel had to log because of unforeseen personal reasons.
I will try to reorganise it today. This time I shall have NO mixups!

Hey, I am really confused lol.. This thread is so long and you are talking about the details of the project..

Whens the estimated release for uShop and uCash?

uCash has been released already. We are all waiting and getting ours hopes up to get uShop like soon. :)

Yes, a meeting has been scheduled, and there is no reason to not get it done. You can be sure that future versions shall be covered by us too. I'm going to make sure that we get this sorted out, so don't worry. I remember the good old saying:

"If you want something done, just do it yourself."

Are you in this project now?

Yeah he is, I forgot to update the relevant page.
Also, the meeting had to be rescheduled for tomorrow as today proved to be impossible.
So far it sounds like it's gonna work though.