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akanevsky 07-08-2005 04:13 PM

No, I mean, does anyone ever need to install hooks/plugins manually or does vBulletin have an integrated installer, which means a file upload?

Revan 07-08-2005 05:13 PM

vBulletin has the same Plugin installation interface as Phrases and Templates, so it would make no sense to create functions for those and not Plugins :P

akanevsky 07-08-2005 06:15 PM

Ok, whatever you say...

Should it also generate a text version along side of the html and bbcode ones?

P.S> Shame on you, there is a much easier way to store an array in a file than making a mysql structure for it...

akanevsky 07-10-2005 07:09 PM

I am done, please read here now:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=91941

tamarian 07-10-2005 07:31 PM

LOL, you should've said from the start this will require licensing fee and a license key. :down:

akanevsky 07-10-2005 07:35 PM

Don't show me the down thumbs because it is not going to change anything. If you want to know, the actual fee will be very low ($14.99). -.- And the license key is only going to serve to receive free upgrades :)

And if you are still not interested, I can even provide you with a manual that was generated using this generator ;)

Added Later: By the way. If you think $14.99 is a big fee for this... Check out any of my hack manuals, and note the way they are formatted. Easy to read, isn't it? ;) Now, if my text-based manuals are easy to read, imagine what I made using XHTML + CSS, making use of all the special effects and formatting available. You cannot imagine? Your loss ;)

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I hate html install instructions with a passion. I much prefer plain text.
Ha! That depends solely on the layout. You def won't hate mine, plus it also generates a text version. xD

Revan 07-11-2005 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tamarian
LOL, you should've said from the start this will require licensing fee and a license key. :down:

I agree.
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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
Don't show me the down thumbs because it is not going to change anything. If you want to know, the actual fee will be very low ($14.99). -.-

That's pretty anal. $14.99 is not a very low fee. $5 is a very low fee. $14.99 is more than most semi-old PS2 games cost, unused, in the correct games stores (at least here in Norway. Currency roughly translated).
It is going to change everything. Before, me along with most others in this thread that do not know you personally voted and thought it would be released free, like so many other hacks that are much more extensive than this. And before you start saying "but this is not a hack like that, it's a hackers tool", then I say "exactly".
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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
And the license key is only going to serve to receive free upgrades :)

And for the script to call home to make sure no-one is creating manuals they shouldn't be creating.
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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
And if you are still not interested, I can even provide you with a manual that was generated using this generator ;)

I would be interested in seeing such a preview.
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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
Added Later: By the way. If you think $14.99 is a big fee for this... Check out any of my hack manuals, and note the way they are formatted. Easy to read, isn't it? ;) Now, if my text-based manuals are easy to read, imagine what I made using XHTML + CSS, making use of all the special effects and formatting available. You cannot imagine? Your loss ;)

GeekyDesigns have a HTML based manual which is easy to read and has checkboxes that hides a block of code when it's done (IIRC, I know at least someone does have this). I highly doubt they would start a lawsuit if you took one of their manuals, redid the coding to suit your needs, and used it. I have a feeling this would piss you off to no ends if it was done to any of YOUR manuals.
So yeah, do show me an XHTML+CSS manual whos editing interface would make spending $15 worth the "hassle" of creating a blank "template" manual and fill this in manually at each hack release.

tamarian 07-11-2005 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
Added Later: By the way. If you think $14.99 is a big fee for this... Check out any of my hack manuals, and note the way they are formatted. Easy to read, isn't it? ;) Now, if my text-based manuals are easy to read, imagine what I made using XHTML + CSS, making use of all the special effects and formatting available. You cannot imagine? Your loss ;)

I'll recover from this loss in due time :)

Even $0.0 is too much with this licensing key scheme. There's a lot of coders here sharing their work without such restrictions, so it does look odd to charge for a simple script to format a post or a page as HTML or XHTML and require licensing keys for it.

Nothing against making money, and if anyone pays for it, more power to you. ;)

akanevsky 07-11-2005 06:07 PM

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I agree.
I can understand, nobody likes to pay. Including me. However, as a coder, you should understand that time costs money. And it was not a 5 minute job.

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That's pretty anal. $14.99 is not a very low fee. $5 is a very low fee. $14.99 is more than most semi-old PS2 games cost, unused, in the correct games stores (at least here in Norway. Currency roughly translated).
It is going to change everything. Before, me along with most others in this thread that do not know you personally voted and thought it would be released free, like so many other hacks that are much more extensive than this. And before you start saying "but this is not a hack like that, it's a hackers tool", then I say "exactly".
Suit yourself. Let's start with the fact that I don't think have to tell anything to anybody. Unless I signed a contract or unless I am in partnership with someone. Never said it was going to be free either. You assumed it.

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And for the script to call home to make sure no-one is creating manuals they shouldn't be creating.
I could do a call home. Thanks for the idea. Didn't think about it b4 you said it tho :)

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I would be interested in seeing such a preview.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...threadid=91998
Text version is not included in that archive.

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and has checkboxes that hides a block of code
Wow! Really! How did they do it???
To speak seriously, thanks for the idea. I am going to implement that as well.
Now, speaking of large hacks... Are you going to write out all those IDs and checkboxes manually? Bleh. Even if you will, you won't ever have the patience to finish it as much as valid XHTML goes.

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I have a feeling this would piss you off to no ends if it was done to any of YOUR manuals.
Wrong, son. You could use the HTML from any of my manuals. You could adapt it.... manually.... I have no problem with that xD.
At the same time, I will use the generator for my hacks which will save me a lot of time xD

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I'll recover from this loss in due time
Good for you. Congratulations.

Cheers!

Revan 07-11-2005 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
I can understand, nobody likes to pay. Including me. However, as a coder, you should understand that time costs money. And it was not a 5 minute job.

Yet that didn't stop me from releasing the RPG for free, and keep doing so. I have spent close to a full year on the RPG by now. Granted, I haven't spent 24/7 on it, but still a fair amount of my time.
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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
Suit yourself. Let's start with the fact that I don't think have to tell anything to anybody. Unless I signed a contract or unless I am in partnership with someone. Never said it was going to be free either. You assumed it.

Common courtesy to give people all the info before you get them excited though ;)
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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
I could do a call home. Thanks for the idea. Didn't think about it b4 you said it tho :)

No problem ;) I should warn you though, most people will hack that out, so you should either Zend or IonCube some of the core functions of the hack along with the call home function. Granted, you will sell less because either will require either Zend installed or Safe Mode disabled, but at least no-one will be using the script without you knowing it :)
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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...threadid=91998
Text version is not included in that archive.

Thanks, Ill check that out after submitting this post.


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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
To speak seriously, thanks for the idea. I am going to implement that as well.
Now, speaking of large hacks... Are you going to write out all those IDs and checkboxes manually? Bleh. Even if you will, you won't ever have the patience to finish it as much as valid XHTML goes.

Care to make a small wager on that, mate? ;) You probably don't know it, but you are talking to a perfectionist. I rarely ever publish anything without it being XHTML. Current RPG templates are ++++ because I didn't have time or skills to redo them and still make the v3 release in a timely manner. I do now.
So you see, I have patience coming out various holes in my body ;)
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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
Wrong, son. You could use the HTML from any of my manuals. You could adapt it.... manually.... I have no problem with that xD.
At the same time, I will use the generator for my hacks which will save me a lot of time xD

Thanks, I'll take that offer. Means I'll have the vB3.5 compliant version of my hack with a shiny HTML manual as well as a .txt manual :) Provided I don't succeed in making it into a full-fledged Extension, that is ;)


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