who may want to make images?

You will really need to look around. While some members and visitors may be willing to help, you cannot expect the world for free, which is basically what is being asked when looking for a style close to YaXaY or WiredGamers freely :).

I do not mean to be rude and I can understand time delays, though learning is something everyone has to deal with, to progress, you have to learn, if you are not willing to learn and help yourself, you cannot expect others to help you out.

Studying something for only an hour per day would give you a great advantage over what you already know. Most books, if you are a normal paced reader, will not take long at all to read as most books are not read front to back and all over, rather, skimed over for the details needed.

While money may be tight, the only 2 real options are to save up and have a designer do the work for you or learn via online tutorials, books, or classes (if offered locally or via the online link Brad provided you with).

Nothing is an overnight venture, while you can start overnight,m you probably won't be able to finish and should not try to. Rushing to do one thing in a day, week, or month when you may regret it later is no way to work! :).

i thought i'd but in as the voice of clairty :D

yaxay is a www.ravio.com skin where as wiredgamers and aliensoup were done by www.insidethepixel.com

however i don't actually think you're right about the wired gamers price considering the fact that he's got a very similar skin retailing for what i beleive this gentleman wanted to spend or not spend $40 named the Geltech skin, go take a look ;) and i know you're wrong about the yaxay skin as that covered alot more than just forum images :)

as for ravio aint got a clue how work is coming along but they've got that (imo) ugly new design up so i would imagine he's reapplied himself to his business.

i personally prefer insidethepixel for skins but i think ravio got the talent for logo's it's a shame it all went pear shaped as i thought they worked well together but good luck sorting everything out :)

oh well can't sleep and got a pocket full of pennies, good luck :)

yeah. thanks guys.

I think i will attempt to learn. :)

Im just trying to understand how VB actually works before designing anything. I've just set up a test forums, and will now attempt to mess and play with it!

again, thanks for all your help!

-Dave