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Ron1n 06-17-2005 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbcore
This makes me feel good, A hacked that I paid ron1n to do (this exact one) I paid him $175.00 to create, and yet he is releasing it to the public...how nice

You bring up a valid point, but if you recall, I reserved the full right to distribute and modify this vB hack. I am under no legal or moral obligation to you. Maybe you feel wronged that I am releasing this hack to the public, but it is perfectly ethical. I made a hack for your to use, you paid me, and you didn't use it. I see no reason why I should not release it other than to make you happy. If you had used it, I might not have released it out of respect, but everything is different because you aren't using it. Releasing this is not cheating you and it is not being dishonest.

As to whether this is an exact copy? No. I lost a lot of the source that I used to make your hack (about 1/3 of purchase.php) and when I asked if you still had it you said you didn't. Because of that, I was forced to redo many parts of the hack.

I am sorry you feel cheated or wronged. I wish you didn't, but because you have no solid reasoning for me to remove this hack, I will keep it up.

Ron1n 06-17-2005 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoyoyoyo
I appreciate you sharing this with everyone- I have been looking for something like this for awhile. I added the cron job as indicated in the "fix list two" however when I went to run it to test it out I got this error:

The cron jobs is missing a '.

Code:

$DB_site->query("UPDATE ph_order SET `active`='0' WHERE `active`='1' AND `length` > '0' AND `start`+`length`*86400 < ".$today."'");
should be
Code:

$DB_site->query("UPDATE ph_order SET `active`='0' WHERE `active`='1' AND `length` > '0' AND `start`+`length`*86400 < '".$today."'");

yoyoyoyo 06-17-2005 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron1n
The cron jobs is missing a '.

Code:

$DB_site->query("UPDATE ph_order SET `active`='0' WHERE `active`='1' AND `length` > '0' AND `start`+`length`*86400 < ".$today."'");
should be
Code:

$DB_site->query("UPDATE ph_order SET `active`='0' WHERE `active`='1' AND `length` > '0' AND `start`+`length`*86400 < '".$today."'");

thanks, but the orders.php file in the zip already had that line exactly the way you said to change it, and I still get the error.

yoyoyoyo 06-17-2005 03:56 AM

After making the suggested changes I am still getting this error in the cron job:
Quote:

Invalid SQL: UPDATE ph_order SET `active`='0' WHERE `active`='1' AND `length` > '0' AND `start`+`length`*86400 < '1118984065'
mysql error: Unknown column 'start' in 'where clause'

SunShina 06-17-2005 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbcore
This makes me feel good, A hacked that I paid ron1n to do (this exact one) I paid him $175.00 to create, and yet he is releasing it to the public...how nice

This happen to me also i have paid someone here and he released the paid hack i know how it feel when people doing this ..

Marco van Herwaarden 06-17-2005 06:11 AM

Unless you agree on transfering the copyright or agree on exclusivity, in most cases the coder will be free to do with the result whatever he wants. The price would probably be increased significant if you come to such an agreement.

You get what you pay for (or it should be like that) since you get the functionality you want.

Maybe this is not what you want to hear, but this is how things in general work with Software.

mikaelweb 06-17-2005 11:33 AM

to make grupp off all this templates like vbulletin templates are done

Find in includes/adminfunctions_template.php
Code:

'subscription' => $vbphrase['group_paid_subscriptions'],
add under that line
Code:

'purchase' => 'products manager',
screenshots of ADMINCP

Ron1n 06-17-2005 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoyoyoyo
thanks, but the orders.php file in the zip already had that line exactly the way you said to change it, and I still get the error.

Before it had ".$today."', it should have been '".$today."'

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoyoyoyo
After making the suggested changes I am still getting this error in the cron job:
Code:

Invalid SQL: UPDATE ph_order SET `active`='0' WHERE `active`='1' AND `length` > '0' AND `start`+`length`*86400 < '1118984065'
mysql error: Unknown column 'start' in 'where clause'


Change `start` to `date` - i renamed the column but forgot to update orders.php.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunShina
This happen to me also i have paid someone here and he released the paid hack i know how it feel when people doing this ..

What do you mean "how it feel." Please explain your current emotions and explain why you feel that way. Do you feel sad, mad, betrayed, lustfull, horny, envious, extatic? Do you feel that way because you were cheated, wronged, made fun of, taken advantage of, or betrayed? Honestly, I can't tell what your feeling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikaelweb
Find in includes/adminfunctions_template.php
Code:

'subscription' => $vbphrase['group_paid_subscriptions'],
add under that line
Code:

'purchase' => 'products manager',

I guess you want me to add this? Sounds fine w/ me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikaelweb
screenshots of ADMINCP

Thanks :D

nexialys 06-17-2005 12:09 PM

... some clients feel frustrated to see that they paid for a job and see that job released for free afterward... i've encountered this many times in my coder lifetime...

the only thing that any coder can do at first, to secure everybody is to state what is the price for an "exclusive work"...

example: a hack is requested by a client, the coder charge 50$ for the job, but if the client request to be the exclusive owner of that code, the coder will charge 100$ for the job... this is fair, this is exactly what we see in all other markets...

most of the tools you see in my list of hacks are jobs i've done for clients that did not required to have the exclusive job... i've done a lot of exclusive works that will never be released here for that reason...

the point for the client is the "released for free afterward".. they feel they were manipulated and stealed... but they have to remember that THEY requested something that was specific for their needs, something that was not included in the code... if we find useful to offer it to the community once it's done, this is correct...

Ron1n 06-17-2005 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys
a hack is requested by a client, the coder charge 50$ for the job, but if the client request to be the exclusive owner of that code, the coder will charge 100$ for the job... this is fair, this is exactly what we see in all other markets...

We had this talk before I made it. He asked what the price would be if he had exclusive rights to resell on vbcore.com. I told him it was more that he could afford ($5,000) and he decided to go with a single "license."

I didn't even make this all for him. I originally made something for mikaelweb, but he changed his mind 1/2 way through so I stopped.

From now on if you want to have an ethics discussion please start a new thread.


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