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Ghostsuit 07-28-2004 07:55 PM

"My balls better than your ball"

I hate these arguements, When will people realise that the basketball good for basketball but not that great for football.

Dreamweaver has it's place in the design side of thing and I use it for that along with Photoshop but when it comes to php coding I use Homesites because I prefer it.

Each to their own but don't slate a product because some people can't use it or don't know how to turn off the auto correct features ;)

assassingod 07-28-2004 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrkFusion
I think many people use Dreamweaver because you get an idea of how its going to look, without having to save the file, then preview it with a browser (which you should always do by the way).

I'd still prefer doing Ctrl + S -> Alt + Tab -> F5 and using TextPad than Dreamweaver.:)

Smitty 07-28-2004 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostsuit
"My balls better than your ball"

I hate these arguements, When will people realise that the basketball good for basketball but not that great for football.

Dreamweaver has it's place in the design side of thing and I use it for that along with Photoshop but when it comes to php coding I use Homesites because I prefer it.

Each to their own but don't slate a product because some people can't use it or don't know how to turn off the auto correct features ;)

I agree 100%. It's a combination of knowledge and comfort.

TECK 07-28-2004 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachery
IIRC Kier uses Alier(sp?) Homesite. before it became dreamweaver, which is atad differnt.

You are right, Zach... my mistake. :)
Quote:

So, what your secret weapons -- your favorite development tools? What operating system do you use most and why?

My 'essential' software arsenal consists of Macromedia/Allaire Homesite for writing HTML and PHP, with a bit of Textpad thrown in for its block-selection mode and advanced regular expression search facilities.

I have tried a lot of the PHP-dedicated IDE solutions out there, such as the Zend Studio, but at the moment they feel rather immature and while some of the functionality is very nice (function/variable name completion etc.) the lack of customisability and flexibility keeps sending me back to Homesite. Homesite has a raft of functionality built in, and I can add my own by writing 'ActionScripts' in Javascript etc.

Natch 07-29-2004 12:39 AM

All of this discussion makes me wanna check out Allaire Homesite - I use EmEditor as a weopon of choice, mainly cos I like climbing mountains with toothpicks and kitchen string :D

Noiz Pollution 07-29-2004 11:20 AM

You're all amatuers

*chips zeros and ones into a big stone tablet*

:p

theArchitect 09-27-2004 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolten
Yeah.. at 23 years old Brian (Tigga) you really have a world of experience don't you?

There are many, many, many professionals using Dreamweaver. Obviously you're just not exposed to the high-end coding that takes place at some corporations.

OMG!!! I can understand that people can become attached to their software preference (I am a BBEdit man myself, and nothing beats it :smoke: ), but steady on there.

Also, I would be a little cautious with the whole age bashing thing. I believe that if you are good enough you are old enough.

All major corporates have their own philosophy and "way" of doing things. Two equally successful companies may have radically different approaches and nether are wrong. It is just a case of finding what works best for you.

However I would add that I love aspects of dreamweaver, it has saved me a lot of time, and programs like contribute allow me to focus on important things rather than being bogged down with minor text updates. But beware of the WYSIWYG auto correct facilities. Just like the grammar check in a lot of typing programs like Microsoft Word? just because the computer tells you it is so doesn?t mean it is. Think with your head and not your software.

Revan 09-27-2004 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
I think you'll find many people can also code as quickly by hand as they can within dreamweaver ((X)HTML that is) :)

Do you have any idea how much easier it is to have DW automatically convert my <br>'s to <br /> if I set the doctype to XHTML 1.0 Strict?
On a Norwegian keyboard, the / key is either Shift+7 or above the NumPad 8, and < and > are one key just above the Windows key.
So its tons easier to just type '<br>' and then see them automatically converted to '<br />'.
Also I use the 'XHTML convert' function to make sure I remembered to end all <input>'s correctly, etc.

If this IYO makes me a shide coder, then I quite frankly don't give a furret's anus :p


Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Morris
I was editting functions.php while trying to install a hack and dreamweaver autocorrected (and totally fouled up) another line elsewhere in the code. This is the first time I've ever seen it do this - anyone know how to prevent it in the future?

Edit -> Preferences -> Code Rewriting
Either uncheck it all, or exclude .php and .php3 files from such rewriting
:)

Dean C 09-27-2004 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan
Do you have any idea how much easier it is to have DW automatically convert my <br>'s to <br /> if I set the doctype to XHTML 1.0 Strict?

No much more difficult than using notepad or any other text editor's replace feature ;)

Revan 09-27-2004 08:23 PM

Hah well see thats work to be done in the aftermath of the coding, ye?
And <br> to <br /> is just one of many examples. Dya think Notepad saves you time if you have to convert:
* <br> to <br />
* <input> to <input />
* <img> to <img alt="" />
et cetera
;)


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