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I can point out a few GPL packages that people have developed a bit and are now putting this "everythingVB hack" license on.
[quote] FullAttribution. You must give the original author credit, visibly on your site. LimitedDerivs. You may make derivative works, but you must contact the original author before releasing your alterations. LimitedTranslation. You may translate this Hack, but you must contact the original author before releasing your translation. [quote] If your hack is on a GPL base the hack must also be GPL am I correct? PS - WHile you mods and admins are floating round, when my vb members area access expires on my owned license do I lose access to vb.org? Am I missing something too? :) |
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Secondly, about NTLDR's actions - The vB.org rules state that you are not allowed to modify and/or release without prior consent from the original hack author... That means you should have asked NTLDR before releasing anything which uses code from vBindex... Thirdly: Quote:
Check the "Copyright, Design and Patents Act of 1988" (in the UK) for more details... And finally, please check the rules before you do something which the Mods must take action over - I understand you are new, but we have been abiding by the laws for some time now, and have come to accept them... I feel it is always the newer members who never seem to get the idea of the history and former community of vB.org :ermm: Satan |
I, personally, have some ideas about this issue that can resolve some of the issues for future hacks and addons. I will discuss them with the staff here and we will see what kind of solutions we can come up with that will allow hack authors to retain their rights while allowing for abandoned ideas and projects to be picked up by interested developers.
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Things will be alot better around here if we as hackers here had the attitude of sourceforge than the attitude of microsoft...
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Yes, that would be ideal.
If the following is sort of off-topic, please pardon me, although it's on my mind and I thought I'd voice it. Most developers at Sourceforge are quite skilled at their programming, and most hackers on these forums aren't. For this site, it creates an environment of amatuer competition, and people who don't like to share. If vBulletin.org ever wanted to head into the cooperative haven that Sourceforge is, there would have to be an integrated way of creating hack projects. These could be threads, but instead of just containing the regular information of a hack, it contains the group members of the project, progress updates, etc. These threads could be located in a sub-forum maybe called "Unreleased Projects," or something to that flavor, and when the project is finished it can be moved into the actual hack forum for download. I often see hack-project threads of 4 pages or more posted around where one individual introduces their hack-in-progress and people just talk about it for pages on. What I addressed above sounds like a more formal and effective way of going about things. The best part of cooperative working, even if it's a group of somewhat inexperienced coders, is that people can help out on another and everyone can benefit and progress their skills. To be honest though, no vBulletin hack is ever really that large for more than 1 person (that is, if that person is moderate experience in PHP). Still, it's an idea to consider. |
i think that sums it up, along with Boofo's post about no one wanting to support their hacks anymore
re: filburts comment in reply to supporting hacks; i thought it was your duty as mod to try and get around where possible and offer support where needed across the whole forums, esepcially considering you're a super mod? (genuine question) i think people really do need to calm down though, maybe going back to my idea about tick boxes, maybe people could tick "you're welcome to use this code in a non-competative hack as long as full credit it given where due"? it would solve so many problems. as for the vBindex thing, i think it would've been seen as more acceptable if you released it as a find line XXX and and paste to line XXX or something like that, although being that it was actually an add-on i'm not sure what was the problem exactly. |
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Also I'm pretty sure you cant *just* get a copyright without going to a licensing body and paying for the rights. A community simmilar to sourceforge would be much better. There is competition in a community where competition is not needed. Cant people just work together? |
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