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sabret00the 01-06-2004 04:31 PM

germany should've been vbulletin.com.de or just vbulletin.de

anyway i don't see why you'd need to translate the hacks to be honest, you'd only really need the phrases that should be enough :)

SkyShadow 01-06-2004 04:43 PM

Faranth

Is it unpossible that we could become the 5th sister website?

@ sabret00the

We want to be a fully (!) Hack Resource for the german speaking people, so we would like to host the hacks? Where is the problem?

We do not want to steal your rights! We want to be a partner or sth. like that for vB.org

Zachery 01-06-2004 04:45 PM

its just there are alot of them around ATM and none of them are another sistersite

SkyShadow 01-06-2004 05:11 PM

Faranth, I talked with Scott from vBulletin-Germany staff. He said, that he would help me to become "official" when the site is on, so what is your problem, when I get the system?
I can not start, if you disagree to the hackbase. The team and I would like to support your hacks in the german community! Not more, not less! We want to store the files, because its a little bit more comfortable for the german users, if they could download the full files! Thats all!

assassingod 01-06-2004 05:14 PM

I don't think that many users will object to you translating their hacks, they just feel uneasy that possible unlicenced users may get ahold of them.

Akex 01-06-2004 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyShadow
he would help me to become "official" when the site is on, so what is your problem, when I get the system?

Quite difficult to be official. Some websites asked to be official (in order to have the licence verification system) and it's not one of Jelsoft priorities.

Dean C 01-06-2004 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by assassingod
I don't think that many users will object to you translating their hacks, they just feel uneasy that possible unlicenced users may get ahold of them.

Steve summed it up perfectly there.

KuraFire 01-07-2004 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyShadow
Why do you make this condition?

I do not know, why you and the other users are "against" the german hackportal? We only want to translate the hack, so where is the problem?
Why couldn't we store the hack there? We support the hacks, so why don't you allow that?

I do not believe your opinion!

I'm sorry

just edited

You don't believe my opinion ? Interesting... but you'll have to live with it anyway.

I don't want my hackfiles to be found anywhere outside of vb.org. The only exception to that is for XML files with phrases for a different language. Those can be freely distributed all over the Internet as far as I care. But not my hack files. For 2 reasons:
1) I don't want non-licensed people having access to them;
2) if I upgrade the Hack, it's generally important and I don't want to rely on other people having to upgrade my hack on a different forum for me. I can't upgrade hack releases of my hacks when I didn't make them (ie. on a german board or so), and thus I don't want the files to appear there.

s.molinari 01-07-2004 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabret00the
germany should've been vbulletin.com.de or just vbulletin.de

anyway i don't see why you'd need to translate the hacks to be honest, you'd only really need the phrases that should be enough :)

I agree with you whole heartedly unfortunately vbulletin.de was already taken when we opened our site. We are working on getting the domain though.

Scott

s.molinari 01-07-2004 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuraFire
This forum probably does not count up towards postcounts then, it seems. :)


As for the language-packs released on here - that's all fine, and will work somewhat of course, but we don't want french and/or german Hack DISCUSSIONS here, now do we? We want to keep this site English, so as far as I'm concerned, the french and german vB-sites that provide hacks should only (no more!) have hack language packs attached in their posts, and nothing else.

Just to clarify our stance towards a German Hacks Site. We will only support a site "officially" when the site is running, is professional and has some (must not be a lot) interest being shown within the vB-G community. I have told this to all the people who have asked me if they can start a hacks site. I have always taken a neutral stance towards their efforts.

I believe KuraFires idea of a central hacks database here at vB.org with open langauge files is a really good one. I hope all vB Hackers make use of the language system so that this can be done. That will save everyone a lot of time in the end, especially the hack users.

As for vB2 Hacks. Of course these hacks aren't langauge independant and must be translated directly within the code. This means the code must be released to the translater. My only suggestion is, say what I did,"Show me your intentions are genuine, show me your site and if it looks presentable, you have my blessing." Again, if the site is running, looks professional and there is interest, getting it "official" in order to protect your code from non-vB customers is not a problem.

I hope this clarifies our position on the subject.(especially for those who have shown interest in starting a site):)

Scott


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