taking an idea is just that,

a now playing hack has been done to death

the store hack, is going to be done to death

CMS / Portals will be done to death

but will anyone be jumping down each others throats?

just because YOU released it first on vb.org doesnt mean you were the FIRST to do it.
im sure before you released it someone else was doing it on their own forums and just didnt release it, let alone might it even been on vBulletin. hell is the store hack even 100% your own idea? or did someone (or some other forum system) already have it and you said i can do this. so you released it?

so why arnt they complaining here?

its an idea, and it can be done 1000 times each a differnt way, and have one same effect, each way might be just as effeictient, and NO ONE is stealing anything.

imho, if someone were to release a hack i did , either for vb2 or vb3 versions , with or without copied code ( if without , similiar/identical ideas/features ) , I am fine with it.

It's for the benefit of the general vB community anyways. ( provided it is released through the proper avenues - such as here on vb.org where only licensed users can obtain the hack )

Unless he/she decides to sell it for profit. That then is a different story.

would this discussion apply to "styles" where no original graphics are used? is a color scheme and placement of a few graphics included in this? i don't possibly see how it could be.

Well if i sat down and coded a real nice hack for vbulletin and it was an original idea, then all of a sudden another version popped up a couple of weeks later for vB3, i would be pretty cheesed off myself. The way i look at things, when im ATTEMPTING to create a hack for vB, i dont look down the list of hacks and say "Ohh i can make a better one of that" etc, i look for something that isnt there, so i can make it myself. If an idea has been thought of and created, then why bother making more versions of it?

Sure other people probably did make store hacks for vB before Lesane did, but Lesane was kind enough to spend the time making it and then releasing it, FOR FREE. He could have charged for something that big and there is no denying how popular that hack is.

All in all the way i see it is, if a hack has been made for vB2, leave it too the hack author too make a version for vB3, be original ;)

to be fair im suprised Lesanes hack is as popular as it is considering how badly it sucks and how many security holes it opens up.

but i belive my point still stands. from my post up there

Maybe but Lesane's new store hack is alot better coded and still remains one or maybe the, most popular hack on this site. Not meaning to sound nasty as i seriously am not meaning to be, but i do not see you releasing a store hack or anything that big, Neither have i and probably never will for sometime. Who knows maybe you do have hacks like that, yet not released to the public.

In the end everyone is entitled to their point of view and their opinions i just feel maybe you should give Lesane some credit at least ;)

im not saying that its not popular or that it isnt a big hack. you never know what ill release ;D

if i DID develop some store hack id probally give credit to whoever helped me. not Lesane, while he did his store hack i know it had been done before on other forums, regardless of it being public :)

Well i hope you do release something like it ;) Would be interesting :)
And yes the store hack probably was done loads of times before Lesane released his, no-one was debating that :) I meerly said Lesane was the first person to be kind enough to make one, and release it for free on this site.

But lets say for example, you made a store hack yourself. And it was really popular and it took you AGES and i mean AGES to get it perfect. Then before you know it a version is released for vB3 yet not by you, by someone else and it looked remarkably just like yours. You cannot say that, that would not annoy you

sure it would annoy me but id let it go, and still release mine :)

Look at every bulletin board avaiable coded in php, look at every photogallery script coded in php, look at all the CMS scripts coded in php (hell just look at nuke and its forks!).

I dont see a point to this thread unless someone has copy/pasted your work, hackers are always ganna be coding, if they see something wrong and not getting fixed in hack x then they have every right to code one from scratch and release it imo.

Also, your right something is probbly ganna need to be 100% re-coded for vB 3, all I can say is make your version of said hack the best if you want people to use it, or be prepaird for someone to make a better one.