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futureal 10-15-2003 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KuraFire
@futureal:
Dude, I distinctly remember that you only expanded on John's hack. Mostly cos it was the last thing I looked at on this site before I more or less left for a long time (and only got back recently).

Very uncool :p

This is also false. I expanded on the IDEA of his vbTetris Scoreboard hack. My first, original version was about 90% of my own code. The later iteration of the same hack were 100% my own code.

And, once again, I ALWAYS gave full credit to the original authors for their groundwork and ideas.

The only one being "uncool" here is you; I have spent hours upon hours working on that hack. If you don't like it, fine, that's your choice. But falsely attacking me in public for it is another thing entirely.

edit: Before I get attacked on a technicality, I should clarify that I believe there are small portions of the template that were re-used from the vbTetris hack, as well as certain SQL and PHP statements that are simply there because there is no other way to do things. A variable name here or there may be similar. Since you guys have decided to turn this into a witch hunt, I might as well post this now rather than after you bring it up.

John 10-15-2003 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by futureal
As I said in the last post I made in this very thread, there was no public release of John's arcade hack that I was aware of. You just said the same thing: a few people had it, but there was not a public release.

Now you're calling me a liar?

Ever since the VERY BEGINNING I have given full credit to John and Erwin for laying the groundwork for this.

You guys just singlehandedly destroyed my motivation to continue working on this hack or with this community in general. I can't even begin to comprehend why you are suddenly attacking me for this.

At the time of your release, I think about 50 people were testing my arcade.
Screenshots of virtually every page in the beta had been released.

Not too long later, you came along with a version which looked nearly identical. (As someone said in the link I quoted above.) You then claimed it was all your own idea, and your own expansion on my other hack.

I doubt things were the other way round, you'd buy my story.

futureal 10-15-2003 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by John
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....3&postcount=22
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....8&postcount=20

Interesting how you say it never existed... maybe you should ask Erwin.

And one more point:

As Erwin points out, I could only "rip" a hack if I had it, and I never did. No one (John or anybody else) ever sent me his arcade hack.

The second post, by NexDog, is just his opinion, and not grounded in fact.

And I must reiterate, I don't at all understand where this is all coming from. This is all done in fun, not for profit or prestige or anything else. vBulletin.org is not a popularity contest, or at least, not that I'm aware of. I like hacking vB just as like other types of programming, and I released what I did here because I figured others would like it and because I enjoyed doing it.

I challenge you to find a post by me on this site where I had a bad thing to say about anybody in regards to this hack or John's hack, or took credit for something that I did not do.

John 10-15-2003 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by futureal
This is also false. I expanded on the IDEA of his vbTetris Scoreboard hack. My first, original version was about 90% of my own code. The later iteration of the same hack were 100% my own code.

And, once again, I ALWAYS gave full credit to the original authors for their groundwork and ideas.

The only one being "uncool" here is you; I have spent hours upon hours working on that hack. If you don't like it, fine, that's your choice. But falsely attacking me in public for it is another thing entirely.

I've seen the code for your latest release of the proArcade, it definitely isn't mine. I'm sure most of the code is your own work.

It's the concept of the system, the page layouts, etc. - all were nearly identical to mine on the first release.

Regarding Erwin's comment, of course - you didn't have access to my code. But everyone had access to the screenshots of it.

futureal 10-15-2003 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John
At the time of your release, I think about 50 people were testing my arcade.
Screenshots of virtually every page in the beta had been released.

Not too long later, you came along with a version which looked nearly identical. (As someone said in the link I quoted above.) You then claimed it was all your own idea, and your own expansion on my other hack.

I doubt things were the other way round, you'd buy my story.

The similarities in design were because both you and I likely based the arcade templates off of your vbTetris hack, something that I said many, many times. I have claimed since the beginning (and once again, in the source files themselves) that the hack was based on your work with the vbTetris hack.

I never had the code or template code to your arcade hack. Period. I was not ever aware that more than a handful of people were using it.

What more do you want from me?

KuraFire 10-16-2003 07:29 AM

IIRC, this has been fought out over IRC last night, so let's say we drop this and let the thread get back to its original purpose :)

futureal 10-16-2003 05:15 PM

Yes, John and I talked it over already. We can now safely return this thread to PixelFx.

FYI there will be a longer, more detailed description of how the Arcade hack came to be included in the next (and all future) versions of the hack.

Milhouse 10-17-2003 01:14 PM

OK well I installed this last night and it was working fine. I played all games to test and it recorded my score. Today after i made it public to my users there seesm to be a little problem.

After playing a game, when it reaches game over, it should take the user to the page to enter a comment and record it's score.. however it is no longer doing that..

Can anyone shed some ideas as to why.??

Thanx


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