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Morsolo 10-14-2009 12:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gruffyserv (Post 1899422)
I'll take a wild stab at this. VB 5.x will come out 12-14 months from when VB4 is launched to make sure everyone's license is expired, and VB5 will require buying another "new license".

Remember, they won't be getting revenue from people who need to upgrade to the latest version anymore since upgrades for 4 will be "free" to license holders.


That being said, I would probably buy the suite at half price if I could actually see it or at least see screenshots of it.
I was actually thinking that...

Jelsoft has been doing this with vB 3...

Quote:
Main Version
-- Advancements
---- Bug Fixes

3.0
-- 3.1
---- 3.1.1
-- 3.2
---- 3.2.1
---- 3.2.2
-- 3.3
I bet now they're going to do this...

Quote:
Main Version & Advancements
-- Bug Fixes

4.0
-- 4.1
-- 4.2
-- 4.3
5.0
-- 5.1
-- 5.2
-- 5.3
I am obviously exaggerating that a little, but I 100% think they'll make the release cycle quicker... And a quick cycle results in us all needing to fork out more money.

Pete C 10-14-2009 12:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TNCclubman (Post 1899427)
where can we buy stock in vB? lol
Do you really want to invest in corporate financial suicide? How about you buy my car instead. You haven't seen it, you haven't driven it, and it'll probably need fixing just after the warranty runs out. You pay me first and I'll just send it over when I'm good and ready. :D :D

Swampfox 10-14-2009 12:55 AM
If you dont want the suite, dont buy it, simple

this is just an offer to buy it at a discount

If your license is current the upgrade to vB 4.0 will be free (forum only)

KingPin6 10-14-2009 12:56 AM
what about us poor shmucks who bought the blog system already we get screwed over doubly now? gj jelsoft, sucks to be me for supporting jelsoft and buying 3 licenses.

ZapFlash 10-14-2009 01:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff66 (Post 1899367)
My license has expired, but I received the email offering me a discounted license for $130 as I have an active license. Problem number one - they think I've got an active license when I haven't.

....
Problem number four. The price showing for a new license is $235. The price to renew my existing license is $250. No mention of the $130 I was offered by email, but they want more to renew my existing license than they do to buy a new one....
i'm in the same situation, and as a non profit site, it was an extra effort when i moved from phpbb to vbulletin, later i paid for the blogs, now if i see this worth, i MAY make another effort to pay the $130 offer that i received in the mail, but i just see the $235 option, then why was worth to originally pay for the owned license and the blogs?

Gene Steinberg 10-14-2009 01:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampfox (Post 1899451)
If you dont want the suite, dont buy it, simple

this is just an offer to buy it at a discount

If your license is current the upgrade to vB 4.0 will be free (forum only)
Yes, but when your support agreement expires, isn't it true that you no longer get free updates of 4.x versions unless you buy a full license?

What's the skinny on this?

Peace,
Gene

nomoreturn 10-14-2009 01:13 AM
Prchased 4.0 Publishing Suite

Jeff66 10-14-2009 01:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampfox (Post 1899451)
If your license is current the upgrade to vB 4.0 will be free (forum only)
And if the license isn't current the upgrade will be $250. Yesterday it would have been $40 or $60.


In the past people with an owned license had to pay a relatively small fee to renew the license and get the latest version. They have changed this without giving us any advance notice. Most companies in this situation would have contacted people whose license had expired and encouraged them to renew before the new prices came into effect.


They've obviously not thought this through - or if they have, they don't care that they're going to lose a lot of customers.

yessir 10-14-2009 01:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gene Steinberg (Post 1899456)
Yes, but when your support agreement expires, isn't it true that you no longer get free updates of 4.x versions unless you buy a full license?

What's the skinny on this?

Peace,
Gene
That's how I understand it.

Basically, if you own a forum and blog license, you are compelled to buy into vb4 because there are no more license renewals.

One way or another, they are screwing over existing license owners who bought OWNED licenses.

GoTTi 10-14-2009 01:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff66 (Post 1899464)
And if the license isn't current the upgrade will be $250. Yesterday it would have been $40 or $60.


In the past people with an owned license had to pay a relatively small fee to renew the license and get the latest version. They have changed this without giving us any advance notice. Most companies in this situation would have contacted people whose license had expired and encouraged them to renew before the new prices came into effect.


They've obviously not thought this through - or if they have, they don't care that they're going to lose a lot of customers.
ofcourse they thought of it. doing it this way, they dont loose the new renewal fees because of the renewed licenses that poured in, now they will be getting a full value purchase from everyone that is expired....


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