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WIHEE 08-09-2009 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimberFloorAu (Post 1864223)
Whilst I commend your ingenuity.

Isnt this a TOS violation ?

You are asking members to link to your site, and add their membership details. Isnt this classed as member whoring ?

What do you mean by membership details??? What membership???

TimberFloorAu 08-09-2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WIHEE (Post 1864241)
What do you mean by membership details??? What membership???

By a member of a forum, joining your Website ( which you dont mention is owned by you, in fact you lead people to think its a big site, and you have created a mod for it )

A member needs to give you their forum url. membership ID number

That to me is THEIR DETAILS.

Also unbeknown to forum owners you are hotlinking avatars, without prior consent of the forum owner.

Further, the alt text is 1mfp on every single image, there is no title text. So this is of no benefit to website owners whatsoever.

Further, most sites use SEF urls now, so most users wouldnt know their own ID.
Plus isnt it an invasion of privacy ?

If our board, has members whos profiles, are set as private, then surely this system contradicts that privacy.

Not to mention, link backs from your site, to 99% of forums, is bloody useless, as most forums dont allow guests to view profiles, so again sites are gonna get pathetic link structure and click thrus, resulting in no exposure for the forum, and thus doing it no GOOD.

By asking members to enter their forum, their id etc that is inadvertantly REGISTERING that member with you, however you want to flannel and cover it up.

Mate, as I said ingenious idea, but the only person to gain is you. Its just another 1 million pixels wannabe mod in my honest opinion.

WIHEE 08-09-2009 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimberFloorAu (Post 1864249)
By a member of a forum, joining your Website ( which you dont mention is owned by you, in fact you lead people to think its a big site, and you have created a mod for it )

A member needs to give you their forum url. membership ID number

That to me is THEIR DETAILS.

Also unbeknown to forum owners you are hotlinking avatars, without prior consent of the forum owner.

Further, the alt text is 1mfp on every single image, there is no title text. So this is of no benefit to website owners whatsoever.

Further, most sites use SEF urls now, so most users wouldnt know their own ID.
Plus isnt it an invasion of privacy ?

If our board, has members whos profiles, are set as private, then surely this system contradicts that privacy.

Not to mention, link backs from your site, to 99% of forums, is bloody useless, as most forums dont allow guests to view profiles, so again sites are gonna get pathetic link structure and click thrus, resulting in no exposure for the forum, and thus doing it no GOOD.

By asking members to enter their forum, their id etc that is inadvertantly REGISTERING that member with you, however you want to flannel and cover it up.

Mate, as I said ingenious idea, but the only person to gain is you. Its just another 1 million pixels wannabe mod in my honest opinion.

Hello Mr. TimberFloorAu,

I respect 100% your opinion, it's your right to think the way you want. Even though, I disagree with you on 99.99% of what you have said.

I will go step by step.

1-The first thing you see on the website is that I mention that the script and idea was made by me.(I think you did not had to find out too much to notice it was mine uh?)

2-I don't lead anyone to think is a big site. It's the name of the site. And yes, the mod was made by me to work with the site.

3- If you call "Membership details" to the forum url, the description and the admin id. That is public information for anyone browsing the internet.(their forum)

4- I am not hotlinking avatars, without prior consent, that's the reason why the forum must be registered and an ID is given to the administrator before the forum can be listed at the website. Without that id, no avatars can be added.

5- About the alt text and the title text, I must give say thanks for making me notice that and that will be updated once I finish with this post. Thanks again.

6- About sites using SEF urls, that's another reason why the forum must be reviewed. To make sure that it works with my script. And if you can't find out your id, then that's a good question to ask in that particular forum. As a member of any fourm and having your account there, is your right to know your profile id, url, so you can ask to any staf member of that form. About privacy, I understand your concern, but in the profile options there is an option to make your profile private and only people that you allow can see your profile. In case the forum does not have that option and you are concerned about your profile privacy, then you shoulnd't join that fourm.

7- If you think that the back links from my site to your forum are not good because most forums dont allow guests to view profiles, that invites the guests to join your fourm if they want to see that particular profile. In my opinion that is not an excuse to say my backlinks are bad. If you want that guests have the chance to browse your forum that is completelly op to the forum administrator and for that said, I does not mean my backlinks are not efficient. ;)

8- With the installation of the 1mfp mod witch the administrators and staff members that have access to the templates, the members does not have to enter their ids. Just with a simple click on the icon on the postbit.

9- Thanks for the "ingenious idea". And yes, it is, and it's unique on it's type. And the beneficiated is everyone, not just me.

Conclusion, If you don't like my mod, just don't use it. And if you think I am still wrong, just contact a staff member from vbulletin and report this mod. They will determine what step to take next. And I would ask you very respecfully to stop boycotting my thread.;)

And last. I thank you again because you made me explain many key points about 1mfp ~ mod.

Sincerely,
Miguel Fernandez (Mike30)

TimberFloorAu 08-10-2009 12:56 AM

I wont let this develop into a slanging match.

However, as previously stated its a good idea.

However, you are allowing members to add their details avatar and direct profile link to your site.

Furthermore, on adding a forum, you do not "as of this morning" ascertain if that person is the forum owner/administrator.

Actually from what I read it states, we will visit your profile and confirm. Perhaps I read that wrong, I dont wish to do it all over again, but this does lead to issues regarding, how the hell are you gonna "veto" said forum, without then joining said forum.

The above from your administrative point of view.

I would have thought your best bet would be to create a profile page that the avatars link to, with user submitted info. This then could have a link back ( within that profile page , to said users other forum profile )
The avatar on your front page, ( avatar icons ( for individual members ) would best be linking direct to the forum minus the users /member/myname.html part

This could ( as you do already, be scripted to provide stats to forum owners, to then display those stats on their forums, ie:

usera + userb + userc combined click thrus.

Dont get me wrong, I am not poo pooing your idea, however it needs to be better thought out and administered.

This could, as you well know be a exceptional forum tool, and provide forums with some good 3rd party residual tracking.

However as it stands it does nothing for an individual forum owner, and in my humble opinion detracts from "forum security complicity"

Ste ( will not venture back onto this mod ) :)

TimberFloorAu 08-10-2009 12:58 AM

and sorry to add, I wouldnt report this mod.

As it could be developed better, why stifle its existance by being arrogant .

Good Luck

gemmk1 08-10-2009 07:01 AM

My writing is not very good as i have dyslexia,And i do not want to get into a slanging match with anyone

I installed this yesteraday and it is not nothing like you lot are talking about,How can you pick on someone without havin g all the facts

wihee is a very friendly,helpful person,This mod is like forum promotion if you have a forum which is not doing to well or you just want friendly people come to your forum then this is what this is aimed at,The reason for the avatar and number of your id is so when they click your avatar it will bring them not just to your forum but your profile

The reason your members can share the profiles and the avatars is so really the more members of your forum the more avatars the more avatars the more clicks of curious people

You say this agaisnt tos rules well how about all of you who have your forum link in your siggy you are advertising your website are you not

This is a great little mod,The owner and the members on the advertising page are also really friendly to.wihee has joined my forum and he has not once spammed my site he has helped me with modifications i cannot install he is a lovely person and i am so glad tht i ran into this as i have made a great friend

Marco van Herwaarden 08-10-2009 07:39 AM

Thread cleaned from some trolling posts.

If you have a personal question or a question regarding another site, then please use a PM.

Brandon Sheley 08-10-2009 08:41 PM

This is the exact pm this company sent out to me and a number of my members

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luka
I really love your forum! really amazing, well look at this http://1mfp.com
it can help your forum...

It's spam, plain and simple

WIHEE 08-10-2009 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loco.M (Post 1864779)
This is the exact pm this company sent out to me and a number of my members



It's spam, plain and simple

As I told you before, you got the wrong person, I am not that person you are referring to.
My username is Mike30 on most forums with the avatar you see here. I am not luka.
At the same time I recognize that name, since he is one of my moderators at my forum. I apologize for what has happened even is not on my hands. And I will take actions on that matter. You can't judge me for something I have not done and that has nothing to do with the main purpose of this thread. If you have anything to tell me or say something about it, You can open a new thread with that purpose, even in my own forum or just a simple pm.

~Mike

Paul M 08-10-2009 10:09 PM

Last warning, take this to PM or elsewhere. Anymore arguments in this thread will see infractions being issued.


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