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Zachery 06-13-2009 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COBRAws (Post 1828738)
Yeah I read this today on the newspaper, at the same time a question came to my mind... you install windows 7 and you want to go to the internet and check your emails, how do you do that? Yeah you can telnet or check them through a shell account, but thats not the point lol

I don't understand why Windows is unable their browser built for their OS and cannot package it alone. Why is the same not being applied to OSX. It only comes with Safari right now, though I'm unaware how easy/hard it is to remove safari from OSX.

I just dislike double standards and what the EU is doing.

Paul M 06-15-2009 05:39 PM

I use both.

Allan 06-15-2009 06:26 PM

Safari is good so !

cedced 06-15-2009 06:41 PM

Firefox

Marco van Herwaarden 06-17-2009 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 1829266)
I don't understand why Windows is unable their browser built for their OS and cannot package it alone. Why is the same not being applied to OSX. It only comes with Safari right now, though I'm unaware how easy/hard it is to remove safari from OSX.

I just dislike double standards and what the EU is doing.

Because IE is too much embedded in Windows. Even with FF as your default browser, windows will still use IE for some tasks. You can discuss if that is a good or a bad thing, but the EU say it is to stop competition.

Zachery 06-17-2009 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1831197)
Because IE is too much embedded in Windows. Even with FF as your default browser, windows will still use IE for some tasks. You can discuss if that is a good or a bad thing, but the EU say it is to stop competition.

Perhaps in OLD verisons of windows, however Vista, and 7 are not that deeply embedded. Regardless, i do not understand why they cannot sell their OS with their browser. Its like Ford/GM/Honda/Toyota/Volvo/BMW not being able to sell their engines in their cars, or their raido's in their cars. OSX is the same, why are they allowed to bundle Safari with their OS?

Marco van Herwaarden 06-17-2009 10:23 AM

The problem is that Windows is not a product that is only sold seperatly, it is most often used as pre-installed OS on new PC's.

Zachery 06-17-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1831221)
The problem is that Windows is not a product that is only sold seperatly, it is most often used as pre-installed OS on new PC's.

That is the choice of the seller of the PC and no one else. No one forces those companies to use Windows, they choose to do so.

Again, this needs to apply to ALL operating systems sold/packaged with computers, or none of them. Mac OSX/Windows/ETC

Additionally, no one forces someone to purchase a prebuilt computer, all parts/peices/etc are available to the general public. Given a bit of time most people could figure out what parts to buy, how to install and get running.

I see no reason why one company should be forced to do something, and others don't have to.

DobieGillis? 06-17-2009 12:38 PM

Opera!

maplr4life 06-17-2009 07:10 PM

IE Pwns :3
Firefox has too many issues.
And lately I just hired a guy who loves firefox to test my new websites.


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