Nope, I am correct. You pay for a vbulletin licence. That does not entitle you to access to this site (or even the vb.com forums). It allows you to use vbulletin and also the support system.

Nope, you are incorrect. That does entitle us to access areas which define the purpose of this site.

Sorry Pauly, you entered a pointless battle there. Think i mentioned something about this in my last post too.

You can believe that you wish, but there is no right of access to vb.org. Indeed, a number of licence holders are banned.

Believe what i wish? I thought we were talking facts here Paul. Is the fact not that you need to purchase a vb license to gain full access to this website's purpose? Yes or no?

Yes, you need to be licenced to access some features, whats your point exactly ?

I honestly just wanted to start this thread because of the problem i mentioned in first post. But as things are way off topic i also will like to voice my opinion about the points mentioned.

vBulletin.org is for vBulletin License Owners , therefor who owns a vBulletin license has a right to be on this board. Noone can deny this.

The problem on this site is unfortunately is caused by Jelsoft itself. I hope nobody will get me wrong but all these kind of discussion started on an exact date. When the old administrator staff was pulled down and a new jelsoft representative has been asigned to vBulletin.org.

I put all the blame on Marco and Jelsoft as they both never succeed to run vbulletin.org the way it needs to be handled. Lots of old people are whining , most of the old coders are unhappy and stopped releasing hacks. The quality of hacks is way worse when they were compared to old hacks released out there.

And yet nothing is solved.

Sorry but vB 4.0 is at least 1 year away. If Marco is getting paid he should take care off everything. Upgrading the site to latest version ( come on while vB 3.8 is beta tested on vb.com having vb.org on 3.6.x is a joke and a terrible way to promote business ) preparing a decent modification system etc.. But yet he doesn't handles any of this.

I can understand Paul or Danny or any other volenteered staff complaining about time but Marco has no right to do as he is getting paid with the money we spend on vBulletin licenses , renewal fees etc..

my fault, my fault... i did not takeover the site when it was time... someone took my place while i had the back turned...

I'm in agreement with you Mert. I'm going on 3 weeks awaiting a reply to an official complaint about this at vb.com...tells me that Jelsoft isn't that interested in what goes on here. Sad actually.

/me do not complaint anymore, he have his own stuff to whine about... wife, kids, house, MIL...

vBulletin.org - Official vBulletin Modification Site owned by Jelsoft is using a version which Jelsoft officially announced that it will not be supported anymore and its life has ended.