Well if you code for free then, it's too bad we're not good acquaintances.

Durr...example. :)

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Paul who? lol

Yeah, I get that alot, lately. I've had to lean how to code while doing the backstroke these past few days. ;)

if you guys think feedback system can be abuse give us a example maybe we can find solutions.
also staff say is too busy to create such hack .what about someone else create it and post it here would you guys use it ?

nah the new vbulletin owners are happy to watch us sit here and get ripped off

Please don't start with such insinuations. vBulletin.org policies are decided on by the vB.org staff. Jelsoft does provide us with assistence in the form of server space etc, but does not make our rules and policies. IB (the new owners you refer to) have nothing to do with how vB.org is operated.

Insinuating that IB "happy to watch us sit here and get ripped off" don't make any sense.

At the end of the day the thing that's stopping the staff here from wanting to do this is because of the disputes that will arise over bad rep. They don't have time to investigate that that is understandable. That is why I suggested making the feedback system opt-in.

...Or just close it until you have a feed-back system. People are just signing up in order to SCAM people. Who says they have to make one? There is iTrader, you know -- what's stopping you use that?

Amen

Closing the forum would remove the ability for members to get the help they need for their forum. As I see it, that is in no way a viable option, and looking at how the administration had handled it, I would say they agree.

in the same way we can tell that opening that forum was one of the big errors here. it caused the coders to wait for people to post in that forum instead of the not-paid requests forum... the coders now do not answer non-paid requests, because they know that the clients will someday post the same request in the paid requests because they need the feature they requested...

someone will say that it is not real... so get to the unpaid requests forum, and see by yourself... 95% of the requests are not even read... and if you can read properly, go to the paid request forum and check who is posting there... same people who have done it in the first place.

the reason why it's a complete mess on this site is that the Paid Request forum was created to answer -- requests... not to become a freelancer registry like on sitepoint.com or freelancers.com ... the goal was not to create a market of coders, so why exploit this to the max now that we have more and more scammers?

it was requested numerous of times that jelsoft support the creation of an external freelancer's site for vBulletin, but they refuse... a good point they have is that we can call for freelancers on sitepoint etc... they do not need to multiply the resources...

so my only suggestion here would be the same i do time after time... close the paid request forums, and open an external freelancer site... no need to be from the guys up there, someone here can do it...

it was done some times, but each time, as the project is started by non-professionals, it is not taken in consideration... always dropped and non-reputed. so the only alternative is simply to drop the paid requests forum... by that, you will stop scammers, and the coders will continue to answer unpaid requests... and have their own place to advertise their services, like right now anyway... most of the good coders i know here have their own portfolio somewhere...