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Cyricx 02-14-2008 11:37 AM

Well to kinda give an idea of how the mail queue system runs from my experience dabbling in the bugger. Perhaps someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

When you post a reply with this modification, it'll run some queries to determine who all should receive an email. Then it will check to see if you have it set to run in batches. If you do have it set to run in batches, it'll add those emails to the mail queue table.

The next time a user refreshes any page on your site it'll run check how many you want to send per batch, grab those emails from the database, send them and delete those rows.

The next time it is refreshed it'll repeat this process.

I'm not one hundred percent certain on how long it waits between batches to allow another batch to be sent but I believe it's only about 5-10 seconds.

I have sent as many as 100 emails at one time with this mod prior to the vbmail days and experienced no adverse server side effects. Though I run on a VPS server. Others didn't hit problems until they tried to send 1000 emails at once! Hehe. So If you have problems with your mail backing up, try setting your batches higher, to like 10 or 20 and then monitor the system.

The reason I like the new layout is it's much more aesthetically pleasing for the forums and with the "reply box" it kinda gently encourages the users to visit the forum rather then just slink along on emails. :)

Which in the end.. is what we want... them visiting our forums. Going to the other sections of the site and heck.. in some cases... clicking on our ads :)

snoopy5 02-14-2008 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyricx (Post 1442834)
...

The next time a user refreshes any page on your site it'll run check how many you want to send per batch, grab those emails from the database, send them and delete those rows.

The next time it is refreshed it'll repeat this process.
....

Hi

this would be a problem for me. I need this e-mail notification sent out without a user visiting the page to refresh it.

I have a few boards, that have not enough traffic. So maybe one user every 2 days finds the forum. Sending just the e-mail out, after 2 days of the original posting would be too late.

I know of a different forum-software (www.discusware.com), that has this e-mail reply functionality too. And they use also cronjobs for it. But I can schedule the cronjob, that because of the cronjob every 3 minutes it checks for new messages (no matter whether somebody hit the forum or not) and sends the e-mail out.

A. Could you implement this too?

B.

I need always to send out e-mails for around 500-1000 users with this for each vb-borad I have on the same server. I have several vb-boards on the same server. And each board needs to send those e-mail to this number of people for each vb-board.

Would be the mailserver/serverload because of this to be too high? I use a dedicated server.

Thanks in advance

Cyricx 02-14-2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snoopy5 (Post 1442868)
Hi

this would be a problem for me. I need this e-mail notification sent out without a user visiting the page to refresh it.

I have a few boards, that have not enough traffic. So maybe one user every 2 days finds the forum. Sending just the e-mail out, after 2 days of the original posting would be too late.

I know of a different forum-software (www.discusware.com), that has this e-mail reply functionality too. And they use also cronjobs for it. But I can schedule the cronjob, that because of the cronjob every 3 minutes it checks for new messages (no matter whether somebody hit the forum or not) and sends the e-mail out.

A. Could you implement this too?

B.

I need always to send out e-mails for around 500-1000 users with this for each vb-borad I have on the same server. I have several vb-boards on the same server. And each board needs to send those e-mail to this number of people for each vb-board.

Would be the mailserver/serverload because of this to be too high? I use a dedicated server.

Thanks in advance

I do have a beta script that could be potentially run from the local server on a cron job. My expertise on setting up cron jobs for a server is nil though. If you have knowledge about those I'll send you the file I have that can be run from any directory. Just PM me your email address.

As for the mailserver/serverload. I can't say for sure, depends on your server settings. I believe the individual that experienced an issue when sending 1000 emails was on a VPS, so I would venture to say that on a dedicated server you will likely have no issues.

Either way the script would not fail, only the server could. If you set up vbmail to run in batches of a few hundred though, I think you would definately be rockin strong.

Cyricx 02-15-2008 05:28 PM

UPDATED!! :)

Here's the update message I sent out -

As many have noticed I'm on a bug squashing and obliterating mission!

I had hoped to get a few more minor bugs fixed in this version but
finally found the most elusive and meanest one which was causing people to
get errors when replying to some threads.

The criteria to cause this bug was:

A user must be subscribed to the thread, the thread must be in a forum
that email integration has been enabled. That user must not be
subscribed for instant notification to the forum... only the thread.

Then you would get the error.

I've added a quick fix for the error in 2.5.4

Please upgrade.

If you notice any quirks... bugs... or issues... PLEASE let me know.
I'm devoted to making this a solid modification but I rely on your input
:)

Thank you for your support and patience!

~ Chris

Cyricx 02-20-2008 12:00 PM

Just wanted to give everyone a heads up that I hadn't dropped off the planet and I'm working on the bugs that have been reported.

Here is a list of known confirmed bugs.

These are ones that I have NOT been able to duplicate so may actual be due to issues with another modification:
  • Duplicate replies when posting in a forum that EI is turned on for.
  • Headers when sent through a forwarder are lost when Gmail receives them. - Not a bug! Server settings required setting the delimiter in EI options to \n
  • Occasionally lists a newthread poster as "unregistered" in the email that is sent out. - FIXED in 2.5.5
These are ones that I HAVE been able to duplicate in my test board and I'm working on fixes for them now:
  • Does not correctly decode iso-2022-jp emails.
  • Does not carry reply title to email. - FIXED in 2.5.5
  • Subscribeforums.php shows forums that are links. - FIXED in 2.5.5
Please let me know if you are also experiencing any of the unduplicated bugs so that perhaps I can compare your site to the one having the issue to determine what may be the joining factor :)

The few bugs we are down to seem to only affect one site out of 40 LOL. So the criteria for bugs is getting very obscure... but hey... like I said.. I'm committed to making the most solid major addition modification on vb.org :)

beishe8 02-21-2008 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyricx (Post 1447263)
...I'm committed to making the most solid major addition modification on vb.org :)

Good on you Cyricx, keep going.
vB just cannot realise how important it is.

Thanks for your hard work!

Cyricx 02-21-2008 06:11 PM

Thank you! :)

I'm going to jump straight to 2.6

Still waiting on some feedback on two obscure "bugs" so starting the coding for the other stuff that I want to get in asap.

So far coded is the user option to not receive emails for your own posts :)
Also, admins can allow users to choose if they do NOT want to be autosubscribed.

Those are now already coded and in.

Next I'm going to check out some stuff with how the delimiter is built to see if I can tighten that up. Work on the error message for the usergroup manager so that it will give you an error if you try to autosubscribe a group that is not setup to be allowed to use the feature in the forum manager and lastly... friendly involvement with the thread subscription :)

I'm a busy bee ;)

Cyricx 02-22-2008 06:15 PM

Well... I went from 2.5.4 and went straight to a 2.6 release :)

Prolly had something to do with spending 8 hours doing nothing but working on this code hehe :)

2.5.5 was created in the interim and not released as while working on some bugs I made some huge breakthroughs in what I wanted done for 2.6... which is the coexistance with thread subscriptions as well as the user options for not getting their own posts and (if the admin allows them to) users can select to not be autosubscribed.

Check my third post in this thread for details on how the coexistance with thread subscriptions work.

I'm undecided at this time if I'm going to try to work thread subscriptions to let yu reply via email or not. It could require ALOT of file editting in the functions_newpost.php file which I'm trying to avoid as many file edits as possible.

All in all, I'm excited to feel like this may be my final version for awhile with the exception of working on the last confirmed bug of it not handling japanese characters :)


Several have asked for the cron jobs not to depend upon vbulletin traffic to work.

I'm really not up for writing something that intensive... it would involve creating a queue system as well as trying to teach people how to create cron jobs on their server... yeah.. not my piece of the pie :)

Plus I'm very happy with the way that this works with vbulletin. My forums typically have 1-2 visitors on them at a time right now and it's still working great.

The point of this is NOT to replace vbulletin. I want to encourage the users to come to the forums and hopefully eventually weed them off the mailing list lifestyle and into the forum lifestyle so to speak :)

In anycase, I do have a script that could run by cron job, but it still uses vbmail which requires traffic to activate vbmail and send the emails.. so.. hey.

You could modify it to use regular php mail but I would prolly advise against it as it could crash a server if you tried to send off 1000 emails at once!

Enough babble... hope you enjoy the latest version and donations are certainly appreciated :)

Thank you!

popmyzit 02-24-2008 05:10 AM

Hello Cyricx,

I have been having a problem. Using the gmail settings you posted i get this when running from the tasks:

Warning: imap_open() [function.imap-open]: Couldn't open stream {pop.gmail.com:993/pop3/ssl}INBOX in /includes/cron/emailintegration.php on line 89

Failed to connect to the mailbox for forum - xxxxxx forum

also happens when i try selfsigned ssl pop3:

Warning: imap_open() [function.imap-open]: Couldn't open stream {pop.gmail.com:995/pop3/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX in /includes/cron/emailintegration.php on line 89

Failed to connect to the mailbox for forum - xxxx forum

--------------------
Now whats weird is i have POP3 on the forum settings not Imap...

Any idea what is going wrong? All the settings are right (username, pass, etc)

Cyricx 02-24-2008 07:19 PM

Make sure you have enabled pop3 in your gmail box.

Per the third post in this thread :)
  • Can I use a Gmail account to pull the emails from?
You most certainly can.

Login to your mailbox at gmail, go to Settings -> Forwarding and POP/IMAP

Enable POP for the account, either from here on, or for all mail. Be sure to select archive or delete for what to do after the messages are downloaded. Otherwise the system will continue to repost the emails!!

In your forummanager use the folowing settings:

email address to reply to: username@gmail.com
hostname: pop.gmail.com
username: username@gmail.com
password: password
Type of connection: select "POP3 with SSL (Self signed certificate)"

Done!
If you don't enable your gmail box to allow people to connect to it via pop3 or imap it will give that error :)


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