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Brad 05-28-2006 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smacklan
Unfortunately (for Rap), that all I hear everywhere I go. Lyrics that glorify drugs and crime, degredation of women and so on...all played at decibles far beyond neccessary...when a car can be 100 yards away from my house and my windows shake, it just adds to my disgust and contempt for the music and those that listen to it.

Don't assume they are listening to rap just because you can hear their sub-woofer. I also have a system in my car and rock music does a good job rattling my trunk. ;)

I don't turn my down unless I pull in some ones drive way or it's after 10pm. Mine is not that loud, and my car is sealed up real good. Even wide open you can't hear it outside of the car unless you are standing right next to it unless a door or window is open.

I know the type you speak of though, and agree on all points. My buddy has a stereo that sounds like crap but it's loud, he has been known to pull in to parking lots with it wide open and leave it on while he's in the store. I don't see the point in this, imho the less people that know about it, the less people out there looking to steal it.

People like this give people like me a bad name, there are plenty of guys out there will loud systems and you'll never know about them. The reason is they only turn it up at comp and in areas where it won't bother anyone.

My buddy is like this, and he's always needing to test something new. He lives with 7 houses right next door so I let him come up here to the farm and test in the middle of one of our fields. :)

Boofo 05-28-2006 09:22 AM

@ Freesteyelz -You are so misguided, my friend. ;)

Azhrialilu 05-28-2006 11:31 AM

OI... I'm a rock music fan - love all those ones you've listed (except Prince - not my cup of tea at all lol) but I also listen to other things. While rock music is my music of choice, I've been known to play all sorts of other things - including the odd bit of rap which, although not a favourite of mine I do find some of the lyrics clever and one of the boys listens to it a lot.

Personally even though there are some genres of music which I really dislike and personally think is "crap" or whatever, I also believe that we need all these different genres just to keep music moving forward and without all the various types of artists - be they sex gods like Aerosmith and the Chillis - or gangsta rappers (none of whom I can name LOL - in fact the only rap artist that I can currently think of is Eminem - whose lyrics crack me up at times) we would be in a dire place indeed where music is concerned.

(the only people that should be shot are the manufactured pop bands :p )

smacklan 05-28-2006 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freesteyelz
On a separate note: So much for a great debate. I guess people of "rock" are not so hard after all (how's the generalization for ya). ;) It's ok to bait someone into a discussion but make sure that next time you bring the hook, line and sinker. :knockedout:

I've yet to see anyone make an attempt (besides you) to answer the original question comparing rap to music from the 60's.

Azhrialilu 05-28-2006 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smacklan
I've yet to see anyone make an attempt (besides you) to answer the original question comparing rap to music from the 60's.

But that wasn't your question, sweetie :)

You said:-

"would you consider any music/artist/bands from the last 25 years to have had or may have the same lasting influence on society and new artists as the rock legends from the 60's". "

:p

Boofo 05-28-2006 12:01 PM

I'll take this one, smacklan. ;)

I think he is referring to throughout the thread. And if you are listening to the cRAP, then you and I need to talk. ;)

smacklan 05-28-2006 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azhrialilu
But that wasn't your question, sweetie :)

You said:-

"would you consider any music/artist/bands from the last 25 years to have had or may have the same lasting influence on society and new artists as the rock legends from the 60's". "

:p

true, that wasn't my original question, but I inserted rap for music/artist/bands in my last post. Freestylez has made a good comparison and as much as it pains me, he is probably right that rap has had a similar impact.

@Boofo - a quote from our generation..."what a drag it is getting old" lol ;)

@Brad - I appreciate your remarks and I know there are many like you. I was the same way when I was younger and listened to my music loud in my car, although stereo's weren't quite as powerful back then as they are now. I just wish that more showed the same level as respect to others as you.

Paul M 05-28-2006 04:30 PM

RAP Music ?

Best laugh today - Rap is talking, not music.

Rappers - I'd be happy if they all shot each other (which apparently, is not far from reality ....).

Boofo 05-28-2006 04:51 PM

I'm starting to like you better and better all the time. ;)

Lea Verou 05-28-2006 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freesteyelz
I guess then musicians such as David Bowie, Sting, Aerosmith, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Queen and Prince, just to name a few (I might add), have terrible music. Third, many of today's rock songs sample riffs and beats derived from rap music (a two-way street). Fourth, "Hip-Hop" is a culture and not a style of song genre.

1. The worst rock music is better than the best rap music (I'm referring to music, not lyrics)
2. If hip-hop is a culture, then live with it and don't try to pass it as music.
3. I was referring to classic rock, not today's rock.


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