I'm seriously torn on this.

While In one hand I don't personally mind paying for a good script that will add value to my website.

At the same time I'm pretty sure that if people see paid hacks as a generally acceptable all around thing to do and as pretty much the norm, it would potentially kill what vbulletin.org and free coding stands for and a lot of people would jump on the bandwagon and start charging and it would become even more of a nightmare than it already is trying to get help out of anyone, without giving out cash to do it. Which when you put the cash element in it basically takes all the passion away and basically means that those with lots of money get everything they want and the rest of us struggle, no matter if it is for a good cause or not.

I've actually voted yes as it would be nice to see what is available without having to troll the net looking for it, but I would like to see it very much limited to scripts that obviously require a huge amount of time and effort and work and not just any old script that could be knocked out by anyone with a bit of patience.

My idea of coding is that it gives me a buzz when I get a bit of code to produce a functioning neat looking end product, I do that because I enjoy it. Take away the fun element and make it seem like work and it would ruin it for me and the chances are i'd simply stop helping others where I can and would concentrate just on me ~ (although it seems that a heck of a lot of people have that selfish attitude anyway).

To me the internet is supposed to be a place for anyone and everyone, I think over the last 10yrs people have gradually lost sight of that though and now it has basically become a cash generating machine for the greedy, where cash rules all, sad really, I remember a time on the net when people did something simply because it could be useful to someone else.

I think vBulletin is getting dangerously close to becoming elitist and with that is in danger of becoming the untouchable posh snob of the forum world, where people will start using the competition instead, because they are free and have nigh on the same range of free add-ons too. I mean after all, most hacks that have found their way to vBulletin, have at some stage or another been publically released for free with phpnuke or phpbb or what not.

voted no ... I think this is against what vb.org is about

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Thank you everyone for participating in the poll; I think the results speak for themselves and maybe the powers that be will take them into consideration.

2 days is not a conclusive amount of time for everyone to vote - Currently I see 38 yes, 34 no, and 1 undecided...

That's pretty close in just 2 days - Lets leave it for a week and see how it changes...

Chris

Sure, leave it up for a month.

Although I do think that it is representative of the people who were actively participating/watching the Angry thread.

Speak for themselves after two days - I think not. You only have to look at how the HOTM poll can vary over a week or two. This needs to be active for a month at least. :)

Almost 50:50 ... doesn't mean much IMHO.

I guess you can read the results however you choose. Everyone probably has a different interpertation of what constitutes a "meaningful result" - 50% not enough for you to consider a feature "useful" to have, maybe you need 80% buy-in or maybe you see value if only 20% do?

I'm curious, when you add a feature to vBulletin does the percentage of people it will benefit factor in? If 50% "doesn't mean much", do you not add a feature that would only benefit half of your users?

Taken in reverse, at what point do you remove the vB2 section? When 50% of the people are no longer using it? 30%? 20%?

What? When we were constantly told that only a sliver minority wanted information on commercial systems? Like I said in the other thread - regardless of how long its left up - there a good chunk of active users have voiced that they want it!

As far as HOTM: After about 2 weeks (tops) thats pretty much set and doesn't garnish a plethora of activity.

Anyooo, lets say that the poll ends up 75/25 in favor of not wanting any information and commercial systems. You will ignore the 25%? What if the 90% of the 25% are the contributors to the site? You will still ignore?

I think that would be a shame. Regardless of the outcome, at least its been made apparent that there is a larger than a sliver minority that want the information.

Just my 2 logs to throw on the fire ;)