Well, there's actually more to think over, like this:

If someone on your forum starts to abuse a newsgroup, you really like to remove posts from that user. The problem is that when a post has been sent to a newsgroup, you can't delete the post (only local), unless you send a cancel-message to the group. Deleting a post in a forum doesn't send any cancels, and it's too late to stop such message, as fast as it has reached usenet. I've been thinking of this before, how this would work if such function was added, that sends cancels to a group when something is deleted on the forum.

There's a few risks to think of too. Like admins that gone crazy and starts canceling everything in a group. But then, we have message id's. If something could identify the local post so cancels only can be made on posts that come from the forum, that could be possible to avoid. Cancels can always get bypassed, but if it can be made harder, moderating local users on usenet could be an idea too. Another problem is when someone on usenet reply a local "abuse", that cannot be moderated. Etc etc. :)

There are similar challenges as you expand the mailing list gateway concept.

How do you keep spammers or trolls from forging the addresses of real members? And, of course, there is no way to cancel an e-mail once it has been sent out to your members... I hope there's a viable strategy with some encryption tricks and custom headers that will help. Lots to think about!

Still, what's the answer to any of these questions? Work through the logic of the problem, pick out whatever solutions might exist, if any, and present them to the user of the mod as options in Admin-CP! No problem! ;)

Have you found sources for the protocols for Usenet? I think we're each going to need to study the parts of this application we're personally interested in and share our research to help with the coding.

Be well,

Mike D.

With canceling e-mails it's different. There's no actual solution for that as I know it. SMTP-servers only act on delivery, not on cancels. If that was what you meaned with the custom headers.. :)


Here's some of them. :)

Standard for Interchange of USENET Messages
Network News Transfer Protocol


I don't think everything in them are necessary, because some parts might be interesting only if you're building a new server (I haven't read it so I can't confirm on that)..

Hey,

I'm not getting pictures, can pictures be included in posts? Almost all posts I'm getting have images.

Here is my forum for the posts: http://www.deuceace.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24

It also doesn't seem to be showing much text, am I able to change this or is it a limitation of what I am allowed to take from the sites?

Just bought our license and got vb-2.6.1 running. Now I need to lure the old time mail and news junkies in. Can NNTP Gateway work with vb-2.6* If not now, when? Thanks.

To John Diver:

There's the problem, John. This hack is dormant. The only support is from whatever other users there are that want to chime in. I don't have enough experience with the hack yet to know much of anything. The only thing to do, if nobody answers, is to search this thread and the one for the previous version and see if they say anything about a fix for your problem.

Me, I need the hack working, too. When I've had some more time to work on it I'll be of more help.

Jruttenberg:

The most recent version of the hack works on 3.5.0, mostly. You need to apply some bug fixes that are scattered through this thread but not included in the distribution files.

There are several threads for earlier versions that you could research and test. Just search the forum for 'NNTP gateway.'

Why are you working with the older version of vB? Server limitations? Too much customization to want to upgrade and rebuild, just now?

Be well,

Mike D.

I am pretty sure he meant 3.6

Mike,

What's the status now? Have you been able to put anything together? Perhaps we could start a development thread somewhere and start contributing/beta-testing?

-Aylwin-

The biggest issue in import is when clicking on the 'go to last post' button on forumhome, it says no thread specified and it leads to: /showthread.php?p=0#post0.

I didn't test export to usenet, mailing list, attachments.

Dear Aylwin,

I've been trying to gain my sea legs asking about the process of posting hacks here. See this thread in vBulletin Questions.

I'm also working on another small hack as practice for some later parts of this project.

I will read over the code for this hack and make a first attempt at installing it soon. I'm ready for that now.

With that experience under my belt, I expect I'll be ready to get started here, and to ask for the help of as many of you as are willing, to gather all the code enhancements and bug fixes that are already in this thread and integrate them.

Maybe then it'll be time to put up a new thread in the 3.6.x hack forum, or else start a development thread in the vBulletin Questions forum to bring it up to 3.6.x compatibility or make the first stab at some new feature integration.

I've not abandoned the effort. I hope y'all will hold on while I get up to speed... Unless of course another leader would like to step up to the task! :laugh:

Be well,

Mike D.