Will this work on 3.6.1?

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When I bought vBulletin last February I was depending on the fact that this hack was working and supported, which it at least seemed to be at the time.

Lierduh appears to be busy on other things and hasn't posted to this thread since March. Dave Kendall and others have written many tweaks and bug fixes, but they're not yet integrated into the distribution files, requiring each new user to review 350-plus posts to collect them all.

Thankfully, frakman in post 67 gives me some guidance on my most critical requirement, which is importing a bunch of mbox format e-mail archives to initially populate two of my six new forums.

I knew going in that I'd have to build on this code to get my board and list server to work together the way I need them to, but I had hoped to start from a working code base.

We at least need to:

• Integrate the current bug fixes
• Add the new features that a couple of people have coded
• Update and expand the installation instructions
• Update the hacker's guide (or incorporate its features as options)
• Test everything against 3.6.1 and upcoming releases

I'd also like to brainstorm if the mod ought to be upgraded to use the plug-in system, or whatever other ideas anybody has.

If any of this is going to happen either lierduh has to pick it up again or somebody else has to (assuming he agrees, of course...).

Naturally I wouldn't be talking like this if I wasn't prepared to offer myself as a candidate. The trouble with that is I'm not a coder. All my programming experience is 20 years out of date. Every time I pick up this project I have to haul myself a little further up the learning curves for vBulletin's structure, XML, modern HTML, CSS, and PHP. As far as learning curves are concerned, on a scale of one to ten -- where zero is your grandma -- I'm somewhere below two! :cross-eyed:

So, can a guy who's working hard just reading this stuff take what others produce, integrate it, organize it and release it? Project leader as glorified filing clerk? Is that even vaguely realistic?

Is there enough interest here to build a serious collaboration around?

Maybe even enough interest to finance some development work?

What say ye?

I know some of you will think this is a wonderful idea, since you want the hack working again as much as I do, but I'm especially interested in the advice of experienced coders and developers. If I'm hopelessly out of my depth you'll know it, and it'd be better to figure that out now...

Thanks for reading.

Mike Devour

If anyone who is interested in further developing this hack and provide support for it. I will have no problem hand over the hack. ie. assuming whoever takes over do not turn this into a commercial product.

I have lost the interest to do any work on this for the reasons I might have mentioned before.

1) Hacks are no longer the way the hacks used to be. When I was first on the net around 95, hack means everyone contributes code to make something better. Nowadays hack means free software. I have no problem with that, the problem is most of the people using the hack do not even spend more than a few minutes to read the instruction, let along checking the code, hack the code, help others.

The result is coders start to turn good code into commercial products, creating their own forums to build up the traffic. Not that I blame them.

2) I am not a real programmer, I check php.net regularly for how to use functions etc. I started hacking this when I needed this for my own forums. So I am not interested making money out of this, because my time is much more valuable doing what I do.:)

Mike,

Great initiative! I'm willing to help in any way I can.

-Aylwin-

I think one thing to do is add support for "handshaking", to forums that connects to peer-servers on the same connection. That thing can be hard to explain, specially in english, but I'll try.

Client connects to port 119 as usual, but so are servers (peers that transfer the news). The difference between a peer and a client is the handshake string (not the authinfo). When a server-to-server connection is established, the string "MODE STREAM" are sent to identify the connection as non-human. Clients are sending "MODE READER" to identify as human readers. This hack does not do that, and that gives me some problems since I'm peering locally from the same server as the forum. I also use a suck-feed for some local groups which automatically makes me identified as a peer. So for now I have to use a dummy ip to connect as a client to the server. I tried to fix that part, but failed.

If a server is configured as a clientserver the "MODE READER" isn't necessary for the handshake, so it says "Hi, I'm a clientserver" first - and that's why this hack works so good. :)

If you're a peer, you have to send MODE READER if you don't want to peer. If a server is configured as a peering server (both methods are made by ip detection), the server immediately acts as streamingserver instead and you have to enter MODE READER to identify as a client. This is where the problems start. When I'm trying to download posts to the forum as a client, the server identify me as a peer and the posts never arrive.

To be short - handshake identification is needed in this hack. :)


And I'm also willing to help. :)

I also have bought VBulletin only for this hack.

It work with 3.6.1 ?
For the moment i think to use 3.5.5.
Is this version :
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachmen...chmentid=32237
the latest and most recent ?

I'm using it with 3.6.0 with no apparent problems. But I think I had to tweak something in one of the files. I just can't remember right now. Ihaven't had time yet to upgrade to 3.6.1 but I guess it should still work.

And yes, I believe that's the current version.

My personal interest in this mod is on mailing list support. I've been using it as a mailing list gateway and archive. I'd also like to expand this mod to use it like an email interface to the forums (kinda like phpBB's Mail2Forum mod). I know this is not the original intention of the mod but I think the necessary components are already there. I also know that there's a vB Mail Reply mod but that hasn't had any new development since 3.0.x and the implementation is a bit too complicated.

Having said all that, here's my wishlist:
- IMAP support
- configurable "user check" (I think I can handle this)
- configurable "add to user's post count" (I think I can handle this too)
- multiple forum support instead of 1 list <--> 1 forum
- updated attachment support (no need for an old functions_image.php file)
- support for large attachments (at least I can't get it to work now)

Another thing:

I experience duplicates on posts that goes to usenet. They bounce back to the forum and gets posted one more time, like it was from a usenet-user instead of the original member.

Thank you very much.
Now i will install 3.6.1