/me checks his "panties" to make sure they are NOT in a bunch

lmao boofo............

I for one think that the new set up is a great idea and hopefully .org will continue to be an awesome site...........

Not if I have anything to do with it. I suck, trust me on that. :cross-eyed:

Look, you guys want respect, right? So, how do you think the best way is to go about getting that? Do you think you do it by making demands on the people who own the site or volunteer their time to keep it running? Have you been on the site so long that you now feel a sense of entitlement and that somehow your leaving will cause the site to crumble beneath you?

Get real.

All of us run our own sites - how do you respond to people making these kinds of demands on you or on your time? And when they get upset, complain and tell you they are leaving; how does that make you feel? All your effort, all your work is trivialized and comes down to a few posts that make the difference between enjoying a site or leaving.

Do you consider losing an Admin a positive step forward?

You may not like me making light of this situation, but pointing out the absurd is something that had to be done. I would be shocked if any of you would have put up with half as much on your own site. And that's what it comes down to, doesn't it?

My site, my rules, its not a democracy and people do not have the right to say whatever they want and say it's 'free speech'. People cannot make demands of my time anymore than I can make demands of theirs. If someone says they are leaving, I'll tell them "Thank you for your contributions and good luck in all your future endeavors.".

I would suggest the same applies here - like it? Great, we'll hang out, share some mods, talk some smack and post some more mods. Over it? Leave the way you came, with a wave and a nod. Nothing more, nothing less.

Those of us who have been around a long time have seen many posts like this and, yet, the site continues. It's evolution, folks; the site of today may not be the site of tomorrow and yet the site itself hasn't changed - the members have.

Hey, I've had my beef with the policies and the Moderators here myself. I'm a commercial developer and would like the site to be more open to those kinds of add-ons. I expressed my opinions and moved on; its up to those who pay the bills to decide how they want to proceed.

vb.org is a resource - we post our work, we take pleasure in the positive feedback and we keep doing this cycle until such a time as our schedule or the demands on our time no longer suit us.

You don't need to make demands or empty threats to get your point across; nor should your involvement take away from the pride of ownership that those who work on the site have earned.

Peace out.

@ MPDev - Very well said, sir. ;)

LOL You crack me up! ;)

My goal for the day was to put a smile on Boofo's face. My mission is complete and he gets a hello wave with all 5 fingers. :D

Thank you, sir. Mission accomplished. ;)

Now thats is some funny shit!

You keep stating that we shouldnt expect to see changes just because we cry out, at least that's what I managed to dechipher from all the fat. Yet changes are happening. Do you think that the staff we resurrected would have simply awaked on their own and went "nah sod this, we're going to make things better for coders even if they don't complain."
In your own words, get real.
Also I can hardly see the comparison between another forum and this site. Is your site owned by a respectable company that sells their products, and your site the sole reason why a good portion of the company's customers choose that product and not one of its competitors? I think not.
Even if we disregard the Jelsoft benefit aspect of this site, I doubt your users contribute to your forum with actual hours of work that could easily be sold for a small fee.
Comparing a random forum's users to the coders at vBorg is like comparing a nugget of iron to a key. The key could be used to unlock great treasure (Jelsoft sales) and the nugget of iron can be painted yellow and sold to some dumb bastard that believes its gold.