purchse teh pro version for most of that stuff

Try re-installing, looks like a broken install :)


Fillip

Is there anyway I could get the info to change the layout without buying the pro version?? I dont wont all those extra options as far as I am concerned thats pretty much bloatware and overkill, no offense of course. I just want to move the shout below the shoutbox and not have that big ugly box...I would be willing to pay for this maybe 10 dollars at the most or could you at the least point me in the right direction??

Unfortunately not, no :(


Fillip

Well, in my opinion your kinda missing out on an extra revenue stream. I am sure lots of people would pay a fee from what I am reading just to change the layout. I mean I understand keeping that for the pro version as it seems thats the most wanted feature, but thats kinda overpriced as far as paying that much just for a better layout. Otherwise nice mod thanks anyway :)

Also, question. What controls the default font size? I been looking for it but have yet to find it

I am sorry but this is a great product.

It is just a shame that the creators do not have any common sence in regard to price.
Really you are losing out on a large revenue stream just because you are trying to be so greedy. vBShout Pro - Lifetime costing nearly $100 is just a rip off. Why would I pay nearly the same price I can get a vblicence at for an addon? Really common sence goes a long way.

Think of it like this. You make a lifetime contract $20 you would gain an amazing amount of income as more people would be willing to pay $20 for than $100. Now maybe you think yes but we earn more on $100 per pro license instead of $20. But here is the golden question will you get more licenses sold at $20 than at $100 and im 99.9% sure you would easily double your annual revenue. More so when you have to understand that the minute your pro version goes live with in a week there is a warez site that has it avaliable for download to people for FREE.

So do your self a favour and dont think that trying to be greedy bastards will get you any where in this time and age as more and more people will just go down to the nearest warez site get it for free and you will get what? NOTHING.

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Now to the problem i first noticed. You must be one of the only shoutboxs still out there that does not allow usergroup restricting and access. This is not in the lite or pro version and it is a real let down that I have no ability to control what user groups can post and what ones cant.

Next is the annoying resize box on chat impute. I dont want to give my users to option to play around with the size them come crying to me when they cant fix it.

Next is the inability to create chat rooms that can be usergroup restricted. aka an administrator or staff online chat. A good idea you sadly seem to have missed.

Next is the lack of overall control.

In the end. For a group that says this is not a hobbie but are livlyhood you seem to be doing hardly any better. I would expect from a group charging nearly $100 a bug free fully working better than any other shoutbox product. Instead of a shoutbox barly better than most other shoutboxs and that is only if you purchase the pro version with the lite version being no real improvment on the many free ones already.

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Ps if you think im talking out of my ass just send me a private message I can link you to 10 sites it took me 1 second to find containing clean nulled versions of your product fully working.

Thanks for the input on our business =)

The company is doing just fine as it is, and as a general rule we only solicit business advice from people who run successful software development/publishing companies, as people who don't tend not to understand the realities involved.

Just as a quick example - you claim that if we slashed out price by a fifth we would double our revenue, for this to happen we would have to sell 10 times more licenses. That means 10 times as much support, which means 10 times LESS time for updating products or creating new products - that would mean that within 3 months even if we were in fact making twice as much out of vBShout, we would be missing out on another 2 or 3 revenue streams, which would actually mean we LOSE money =).

Regarding Piracy - price isn't an issue for most people who pirate things. You can find pretty much any piece of software, music or movie pirated online. In addition you can find people illegally hosting mods given out for FREE here on vb.org - i'm pretty sure it doesn't get much cheaper than free.

Iain

There is no option to control the default font size, however the Pro version has a per-user font size dropdown which controls the size of the display only (i.e. other users do not see larger shout font) :)

You are incorrect, this is a feature in the Lite version.

If you are running Suhosin on your server, you will not see the usergroup permissions form until you have created the instance and then click the Edit link afterwards. This is not something we are able to work around at this time :(

This is a browser feature, it is nothing we are able to control unfortunately :(

Chrome and as of late Firefox has implemented this feature, it is not something we implemented.

This is also incorrect, in the AdminCP you can create chat rooms that only certain usergroups can access, and any chat rooms you create via the /createchat command is also limited to only the people you invite.

I'm not sure I understand what you're referring to here, this is to my knowledge the most feature-rich shoutbox out there, even in the Lite version :)

If you would like to suggest some new features or new options that don't already exist, feel free to post that either here or (preferrably) on our website and we will take them into consideration for future versions :)


I'm not quite sure why you are trying to claim that features that do exist do not - have you actually used the shoutbox and looked into the AdminCP menus?

You may need to add yourself to the Super Administrators list in config.php (or give your account the Can Admin vBShout administrator permission) in order to see the AdminCP menu.



Fillip

Please have lenguage spanish?

I don't believe there's a Spanish translation available, sorry :(


Fillip

- Ignore some comments.
For some reason the vbshout admin cp box did not appear until I updated my forum this morning. I was restricted to just the ones in the options panel in the admin cp. And this explains why I didnt see alot

Disable Active Users Tab? Is there any way.

You can remove the silly box that shows a list of them. But for some reason I see no option to disable the actuall tab . You can for system messages, Notifications and others just not active users?

There's currently no option to disable that tab because code in the JS file depends on that tab being there :)


Fillip

Question.

Why is there no way to delete custom commands? I have made a list but some needed fixing before i allowed users to use. Sadly now I can not remove any custom commands. It is annoying as it means users keep using the incorrect one

1. There is, simply remove the contents of the field where you normally type the "/something" :)
2. Users will not be able to use commands you create for yourself in your UserCP, so they wouldn't be stuck using incorrect commands :)

Besides, I don't understand why you need to delete them and then re-add them? Why not just make the edits and save them? O.o


Fillip

It wont let me.
I have tryed to edit them but nop nothing.

Another thing.
Is there any way to make global custom commands and make it so only administrators or people I select can create custom commands.

What I mean is say I want /smellyfish and i want all users to be able to use the command /smellyfish is there any way to do it.

And as for the second part what i mean is I want only me to be able to create custom commands no one else. aka restricting to premade commands.

Because custom commands do not affect anything other than act as a shortcut for a larger amount of text, there's no permission settings for custom commands.

There's also no way to create a global custom command at this time, sorry.

Fillip

Is it possible to do abit of editing in the actuall plugin it self and do it.
Im guessing there as to be an area that has /commands stored some where that the shout box gets its information from.

So im hoping that it is possible to expand and create the global command using the premade ones aka pretty much just copy paste changing the output and effects and bingo.

Also it would be a good idea to include this in the next update. As I am sure I am not the only person who would like the ability to set premade commands for all users and the ability to restrict access to creating personal custom commands.

Aka like a tick box that says
[x] Allow Custom Commands
and an extra admin cp tab to create global ones.

Out of curiosity, why do you need to restrict use of custom commands? Does matter if the user types "/slap Username" or "/me slaps Username with a wet fish"?

The user can do nothing with custom commands that they cannot do with text.

Out of 87 pages on the vB4 version alone we have not had a single request up until now to disable custom commands for certain usergroups - that I can remember, anyway :)


Fillip

Pretty much it is for a number of reason.

Well to start with having to explain to each user how to set commands does become annoying. Also with the ability to set default/global commands all users can access it allows us to keep random spam of the community. Also we run a trade center in our community and we wanted to add a chat based system also and give users the ability to type aka /sell /buy and allow users fast and easy selling there ingame items. With this also said we wanted to give are users a set command list rather than allowing users to create there own. It just means we keep the chat cleaner and have a more broder control.

There are other reasons but they all come down to simply giving us the owners full control over the chat box and custom commands instead of leaving it to our members.

And as for the fact no one has asked maybe not many people have experimented with the function of custom commands. Maybe most do not know it even exists as most people dont bother going into the options and looking for the new tab for vbshout. This is not just a guess its just what most people do. I have used vb for years normally I dont ever go into my options other than to change my signature or custom title and most people are the same so again another reason for global set commands. Also maybe because your explination on how to set custom commands was also alittle hard to under stand. Most people wouldnt understand that {1} simply allows an text imput after the / command.

Also another good idea would be the ability to have custom or global custom commands appear when you click on some ones name. I see you have the message fucntion ban and so on. It again would make life easy if i could just click on some ones name and it comes up in the drop down box slap trade kick and so on.

Might be alittle hard to impliment but still to be the best it is the small details that count and the ones most people do not even notice until there gone

how do you change the text box colour?

It gets its color from the forum skin you use.

Hi,

I am currently testing this on our forum, with possibility of upgrading to pro if our members are happy.

I do however have a few questions.

1. Where is the css to change the hi-light colour of the text input box? Its coming up as white, making it very hard to read the text inputting, cannot locate using firebug
2. Can we move the text input field to below the shoutbox rather that to the left, without changing code.
3. Show active users elsewhere on site, i.e. forum statistics at the bottom of forum home, or a cms box.
4. Is there a smart phone aware version in the pipeline?
5. With the pro version, pop out mode - does the browser notify that there are new messages? i..e so i can see from taskbar that there is/have been new messages since i last looked?
6. can we invite people to chat who are not looking at the chat window? i.e. browsing the site elsewhere.

That could quickly clutter up the menu though - the Pro version has a lot more options (prune per-user, quick link to infract member, etc) :)

The input area works off of two StyleVars:
input_background and control_focus_background. The first is before the user selected the input area, and the 2nd is while the user is typing.

The actual shouts' background area works off of the postbit_background StyleVar.

That's an option in the Pro version.

Not currently possible due to the fact that we can have more than 1 shoutbox.

This version already works well in the default browser on Android 2.3.3 and one of our team members is running iOS and it also works in Safari :)

No, it doesn't modify the title bar at all.

Sorry, no :(


Fillip

Thanks for responding! - You have done great work on this, the testers so far have had nothing but praise!

With regards to points 3, 5 and 6, are they on the radar to be added? - I would be far more interested if those were possibilities.

Cheers!

We aren't currently planning the next version of vBShout but we'll take them into consideration for when we do :)

You may want to re-post those 3 points in 3 separate threads over on our support forums - who knows how far back your post will be in the pages when the time comes ;)


Fillip

When I try to import the xml file, I press import and get an Internal Server Error

That's unfortunately not something we can assist with, please contact your web host. Random 500 ISE error messages indicates a server problem.

Fillip

Ah, that i didn't want to read :( - What will the lifespan be of this mod? - i'm looking to install something which will be managed and upgraded through the newer versions of VB coming in the pipeline.

Thanks
B

We'll keep updating the mod for as long as DBTech is still in business - which is likely to be more than a decade at least, since if DBTech goes out of business, I'll be living in a cardboard box :p


Fillip

Same here rafymp, I lost my forum after importing the .XML, I had to turn off all modification in config. to get my forum back online, i uninstalled shoutbox... :mad:

I got a problem. I updated the shoutbox with the latest version, and now it's stuck on loading and nothing shows. Can you help me?

Ok,
Alot of our members have reported that they can not see the forum unless logged out.

It seems to be mainly on one group.

Please ensure you've followed all the steps in the .txt files.

Check that user group's permissions in the instance management :)


Fillip

Yes, I followed all the steps in the txt files. And still it doesn't seem to work for me. Funny, the previous version worked like a charm.

I'm running 4.1.2, maybe there's a compatibility issue?

Sorry it was like 2 am,
I ment that alot of users in one group mainly are reporting that they can not see the shoutbox.

Another thing.
Is it possible to add like a new message number when you last looked. like a (11)

There's no known compatibility issues with that version.

One other user reported something similar, and I believe the solution was to make those members also members of a secondary usergroup that could see the SB.

Due to the fact that there's no way to determine when you last looked reliably, and as such all other shoutboxes with this feature have this number to be very unreliable, we decided against adding that for the time being :)


Fillip

I'll just roll back to the previous version. Nothing I did solves the problem.

Thanks anyway