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TheLastSuperman 08-28-2013 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postcd (Post 2441655)
I need plugin which will allow sorting of replies according to rating. the best are on top in thread view. Anyone know plugin which will do this?

Can you explain this more? The way I see it is, you're rating individual posts... so if you distort the display order would the conversation/topic at hand not be thrown all out of whack i.e. the post order would be off so when read top to bottom or vice-versa depending on your settings it might not make sense... that's just my thought on it. I do see your point about wanting the most helpful answers at the top, naturally it's quick to find the solution. Perhaps a "This is the correct answer" option "image overlay" on the post an admin deems as such would be best in a situation like this.

ozzy47 08-28-2013 07:43 PM

Yeah throwing a thread out of whack would just seem like a giant PITA to me. I would go with something like Mike posted above.

Ted S 08-30-2013 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postcd (Post 2441655)
I need plugin which will allow sorting of replies according to rating. the best are on top in thread view. Anyone know plugin which will do this?

That's an option in this addon although you'll want to go further than just enabling it and insure replies are answers, not discussions (best if you have a comment option below reply).

Keep in mind it's a global setting so if you use it in one forum, it will apply anywhere HA is used.

Bubble #5 09-02-2013 03:22 AM

4.2.1

postbit legacy

Does anyone know how to add the "did you find..." sentence in the lower right hand side of the post? No matter where I put the code it always floats to the upper right hand side. I think maybe I need to add something like a div around the code? Thoughts?:confused:

Ted S 09-02-2013 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubble #5 (Post 2442468)
4.2.1

postbit legacy

Does anyone know how to add the "did you find..." sentence in the lower right hand side of the post? No matter where I put the code it always floats to the upper right hand side. I think maybe I need to add something like a div around the code? Thoughts?:confused:

The bit floats... try forcing it around another div.

postcd 10-11-2013 07:43 AM

Hi,

question1: if i delete user and all his posts, will be also his Helpfull answers points he added to other members posts deleted?

question2: what value to add to hide posts with 2 and more negative votes? in "Hide Negative Posts - Count"? .... 0 hides 1+ negatives

question3: are hidden posts visible to google bot / indexable?

idea1: Please allow setting different value for "Hide Negative Posts - Count" and Hide Negative Thread - Count"

idea2: This Mod dont show up on my forum after install, i needed to bulk enable it from main menu: Administration /
Helpful Answers System / Bulk Forum Enabler. It should be noted in first post of this topic... I almost did not found it.

Ted S 10-11-2013 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postcd (Post 2452165)
question1: if i delete user and all his posts, will be also his Helpfull answers points he added to other members posts deleted?

No. His or her posts have nothing to do with his or her posts any more than they have to do with his or her profile, blog comments, etc

Quote:

Originally Posted by postcd (Post 2452165)
question2: what value to add to hide posts with 2 and more negative votes? in "Hide Negative Posts - Count"? .... 0 hides 1+ negatives

2

Quote:

Originally Posted by postcd (Post 2452165)
question3: are hidden posts visible to google bot / indexable?

The addon sets the div as hidden using inline css which engines are likely to pick up on. Whether the follow it or not I don't know.

[quote=postcd;2452165]idea1: Please allow setting different value for "Hide Negative Posts - Count" and Hide Negative Thread - Count"

- Thanks for the idea!

Quote:

Originally Posted by postcd (Post 2452165)
idea2: This Mod dont show up on my forum after install, i needed to bulk enable it from main menu: Administration /
Helpful Answers System / Bulk Forum Enabler. It should be noted in first post of this topic... I almost did not found it.

It's noted in bold, larger text that's colored red in the main post and again in the install guide. Twice.

postcd 10-14-2013 06:41 AM

q1: how then admin can bulk delete users votes? What if user signup just to bulk fake votes. When i delete seome member i usually want all traces be deleted, so i think it should delete also his Answers.

Ted S 10-14-2013 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postcd (Post 2453144)
q1: how then admin can bulk delete users votes? What if user signup just to bulk fake votes. When i delete seome member i usually want all traces be deleted, so i think it should delete also his Answers.

There's a bulk management tool in the admin.

postcd 10-19-2013 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 2452269)
Quote:

Originally Posted by postcd
what value to add to hide posts with 2 and more negative votes? in "Hide Negative Posts - Count"? .... 0 hides 1+ negatives

2

In my case 1 and also 2 hides all posts, even first post. posts which are even non negative rated. I think its a bug and only negative posts should not be visible..? :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 2453242)
There's a bulk management tool in the admin.

You probably mean "Helpful Answer Statistics" accessible from main vbulletin admin menu (http://internetlifeforum.com/admincp...fulanswers.php).

Ted S 10-20-2013 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postcd (Post 2454630)
In my case 1 and also 2 hides all posts, even first post. posts which are even non negative rated. I think its a bug and only negative posts should not be visible..? :eek:.

Typo on my part.

-2

Logic used:

Code:

($post['goodrank'] - $post['totalrank']) < $this->registry->options['helpans_hidelownum']

dougdirac 10-20-2013 04:03 AM

any screenshots of what a hidden post looks like? Do you click to view?

Ted S 10-20-2013 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougdirac (Post 2454780)
any screenshots of what a hidden post looks like? Do you click to view?

Right, the entire post contents are replaced with a very short block of text that has a link to expand back the post (we use a hidden div to make it happen).

The default phrase is "The post by {1} is hidden due to low votes. Click expand to view it" but of you can of course change that, add details, images, whatever you like.

postcd 10-21-2013 10:05 AM

When i add -1 it dont hide 1 negative votes posts. why?

Ted S 10-21-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postcd (Post 2455081)
When i add -1 it dont hide 1 negative votes posts. why?

It's a greater then statement so > -1 is -2, -3, etc... So you enter whatever the minimum value of posts you want to have show.

Clearly not how the option describes it but we'll probably change the phrase rather than the logic to avoid any adverse impact to forums that already have a value in.

tpearl5 11-10-2013 02:12 PM

Any thoughts on importing vbseo likes into helpful answers?

The likes system and vbseo in general has going to the toilet.

Ted S 11-11-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpearl5 (Post 2459695)
Any thoughts on importing vbseo likes into helpful answers?

The likes system and vbseo in general has going to the toilet.

There's no import feature at this point... not sure how they work exactly if you can explain?

TheLastSuperman 11-21-2013 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 2460015)
There's no import feature at this point... not sure how they work exactly if you can explain?

vBSEO Likes is similar to Paul's mod here on vbulletin.org where you click the heart to "like" a post but instead it was a link bottom right of postbit text in each post. Also it's very similar to DB Tech's thanks/likes system they are all very similar in concept.

Ted S 11-21-2013 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman (Post 2462685)
vBSEO Likes is similar to Paul's mod here on vbulletin.org where you click the heart to "like" a post but instead it was a link bottom right of postbit text in each post. Also it's very similar to DB Tech's thanks/likes system they are all very similar in concept.

Thanks!

Obviously if it's just a straight like, importing the data would be rather simple (loop the votes, add a record for each, resync the totals on the post).

The question is of course: why do it and does it match the user's expectation? I like a lot of things but are they helpful? Not sure it's the same...

Loget 11-30-2013 11:32 PM

Dear Ted S,

I would like to install your modification however was wondering if there was a port available from https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=231666?

Thanks.

Ted S 12-01-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loget (Post 2464870)
Dear Ted S,

I would like to install your modification however was wondering if there was a port available from https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=231666?

Thanks.

Nope.

webmastersitesi 12-29-2013 04:39 PM

reported answers page url not opening... any idea?
showpost.php?p=123 no opening... profile.php?do=helpfulans this is the page...

Ted S 12-31-2013 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmastersitesi (Post 2471185)
reported answers page url not opening... any idea?
showpost.php?p=123 no opening... profile.php?do=helpfulans this is the page...

showpost.php is part of your core forum, if that's not working, you should check your vBulletin installation (or clarify your message to indicate what this addon is doing that does not work with it).

Wajow-community 01-10-2014 05:02 PM

doesnt work with 4.2.1?..

Ted S 01-13-2014 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wajow-community (Post 2473473)
doesnt work with 4.2.1?..

Sure it does.

Did you read the install guide and/ or first thread of this post?

emath 01-19-2014 09:03 AM

Hey Ted, did you consider to make the most helpful answer as the second post?
This could be a very great feature..

Ted S 01-20-2014 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emath (Post 2475325)
Hey Ted, did you consider to make the most helpful answer as the second post?
This could be a very great feature..

You can re-order posts by votes with a little hacking or show a message to jump down to the most helpful post. Moving one specific post, not really requested.

Wajow-community 01-22-2014 09:03 PM

doesnt work good with vbulletin 4.2.1

Prince 01-24-2014 01:26 AM

this hack stinks.

ozzy47 01-24-2014 01:28 AM

Well that's constructive feedback.

Prince 01-24-2014 01:31 AM

I just don't want anyone else to waste their time installing it. :)

ozzy47 01-24-2014 01:34 AM

Hmmm, 555+ installs, I would say you are a bit late.

TheLastSuperman 01-24-2014 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince (Post 2476417)
this hack stinks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince (Post 2476419)
I just don't want anyone else to waste their time installing it. :)

Matter of opinion I suppose, most would argue though :p.

Ted S 01-27-2014 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wajow-community (Post 2476055)
doesnt work good with vbulletin 4.2.1

This system works fine with many 4.x sites as noted by other members over past posts. If you provided actual details, I'm sure we could figure out what's not happening for your specific forum but it's pretty hard to do much with "doesn't work good."

Ted S 01-27-2014 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince (Post 2476417)
this hack stinks.

I'm not understanding if you don't like the concept or the execution. If the former, by all means, don't use what isn't right for you. If the later, perhaps you'll grace us with some details to help insure it gets improved?

Ted S 01-27-2014 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy47 (Post 2476420)
Hmmm, 555+ installs, I would say you are a bit late.

And the 4,000,000+ votes that have taken place through those installs (anonymous reporting is an admin option). Suppose that means a few people must like it... maybe, sorta?

[Edit: Make that 6.4 million. Guess they didn't get the memo that it stinks yet :D]

asabet 01-29-2014 06:05 PM

I own several photography forums, and I'm looking for a solution that would let members nominate posts for consideration to be featured on the front page/CMS. This looks like it will work really well for that - I would check the stats daily and see which posts receive multiple nominations - but it has a lot more options/features than I need. Does it affect performance much on a big board?

Ted S 01-30-2014 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asabet (Post 2477781)
I own several photography forums, and I'm looking for a solution that would let members nominate posts for consideration to be featured on the front page/CMS. This looks like it will work really well for that - I would check the stats daily and see which posts receive multiple nominations - but it has a lot more options/features than I need. Does it affect performance much on a big board?

Everything dynamic impacts performance but this mod is pretty low on the threshold as it's primarily just extending existing queries to call in votes and, on occasion, append them in. It's by no means without it's hit but it was designed thinking about how to avoid new calls (and mark options which require them clearly).

The biggest boards using the mod pull in six figures worth of votes themselves, so you can infer from that what their size is.

tpearl5 01-30-2014 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 2460015)
There's no import feature at this point... not sure how they work exactly if you can explain?

One like = one helpful answer vote. There are no down votes. There was an importer for this mod for the likes. This was the query:

PHP Code:

"select p.postid,p.userid,ha.dateline as date,ha.userid as whoadded,hp.threadid,u.username,l.l_contentid ".
"from ".vbseo_tbl_prefix('helpfulanswer')." ha inner join ".vbseo_tbl_prefix('post')." p on (ha.postid = p.postid) ".
"inner join ".vbseo_tbl_prefix('helpfulpost')." hp on (ha.postid = hp.postid) ".
"inner join ".vbseo_tbl_prefix('user')." u on (ha.userid = u.userid) ".
"left join ".vbseo_tbl_prefix('vbseo_likes')." l on l_ctype=1 and l_contentid=p.postid and l_from_userid=ha.userid ".
"where ha.yesno = 1"


Ted S 01-30-2014 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpearl5 (Post 2478052)
One like = one helpful answer vote. There are no down votes. There was an importer for this mod for the likes. This was the query:

PHP Code:

"select p.postid,p.userid,ha.dateline as date,ha.userid as whoadded,hp.threadid,u.username,l.l_contentid ".
"from ".vbseo_tbl_prefix('helpfulanswer')." ha inner join ".vbseo_tbl_prefix('post')." p on (ha.postid = p.postid) ".
"inner join ".vbseo_tbl_prefix('helpfulpost')." hp on (ha.postid = hp.postid) ".
"inner join ".vbseo_tbl_prefix('user')." u on (ha.userid = u.userid) ".
"left join ".vbseo_tbl_prefix('vbseo_likes')." l on l_ctype=1 and l_contentid=p.postid and l_from_userid=ha.userid ".
"where ha.yesno = 1"


Very Cool.

Just remember, there's 3 bits of logging involved in votes:

helpfulpost - which stores the post level totals (so we don't have calculate every load)
helpfulanswer - which records the votes (so we know every detail to report / manage)

and then a record on the user level (for profile views)


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