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thedark1 12-04-2008 03:31 PM

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Yes clearly ! Perhaps it was a cache problem and installing the new version fixed that
um....nope.... i didn't have any sort of caching at all previously, and 0.4 was working .... i installed a fresh version of xcache (not an upgrade to anything).
I don't think this has anything to do with caching though, i think it has more to do with the datastore options in config.php .... i was using filecache before, so maybe that's what the problem was.

zelnik 12-04-2008 05:43 PM

Hi, Been using this great chatbox for a while now..

But I'm hoping to be able to move it to a different location..

In a perfect scenario I would like it on the menu but also open in its own window and with none of the vB menus above it like when you use : mgc_cb_evo.php?do=view_chatbox

is this possible?

Greenskull 12-04-2008 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1678282)
I used it on vb 3.7.3 and now using it on vb 3.8 rc1 without any problem.



I don' t think vbdev is a psychic. You should post what "everything" means. I think you had problems displaying it on vbadvanced, are those solved?

neither is solved. For the Arcade thing I did exactly as instructed. Still doesn't show

Ranger187 12-04-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel-Wings (Post 1677537)
Well - won't you agree that people who don't backup their DB even won't use a backup function, if provided ?
And if they backup their DB, such a backup function isn't needed at all.

Or ?

What I do, and what others do is an assumption. Does everyone use smilies in this chat? No, Does everyone use the PM function? No. But having it as an option is not a drawback in any form. Why? I see things differently. ;) 1 being say a full backup of a database is 100+ megs. You tell me you've never had a large dB timeout exporting, importing etc. Would you rather export / import a 1 meg file, or 100 meg file? Whether the people do their admin functions is not my concern. Having a useful function is. This to me is. Let me know when you use shared hosting, and you have to have THEM do the import because you can't due to limitations etc. There is a reason for this.

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Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1677619)
I don' t see any need for a backup feature, too. It is just a chat, where you talk about unimportant subjects. Loosing that would not do any harm.

And as already been said, everyone who care about data would backup everything, everyone who does not care, won' t need that feature.

Data loss to you is not any harm? That's what your reply implies. I know it's a chat, but I've also heard this god knows how many times... "I had something in the chat I needed." We all have done it. Just like you wipe your home computer, without fully ghosting it or backing up, thinking you pulled everything when OH CRAP..... That 1 file you didn't grab is gone. That's my only critical factor.

Ask yourself this, which is worse? Never being able to reproduce data, or being able to. If you lost 1 crucial document or the like, you will understand my reason. Other then that. Fdisk. ;)

jerx 12-05-2008 02:25 AM

I think sounds for new chatbox messages have been declined, haven' t they? I did not miss this feature before, but after I have seen someone asking another user for msn (because there you have alerts for incoming messages), I changed my mind. And to be honest I sometimes miss that feature, too.

I think it will help keeping the chatbox active. There are times, when there is no activity at all. But I know that some users just wait for other users to chat to. Those users often reply shortly after someone else posted a chat. Although I doubt that they are permanently active on my site, I think they have it open in a browser tab and check it every few minutes.

Of course the majority of users will not monitor the chatbox and will leave the site if they don' t get an anser quickly. These won' t need the sound, but the sound would help turning some of these users into regular chatbox users. Why? Because the sound gives the chabox "monitors" the chance to reply instantly instead of with a delay of some minutes.

Therefore I ask for sound for incoming chatbox messages. Users should be able to turn sound off and a profile setting would be good, too.

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Originally Posted by Greenskull (Post 1678697)
neither is solved. For the Arcade thing I did exactly as instructed. Still doesn't show

If you haven' t even solved the vbadvanced issue, you should not even think about integrating it somewhere else. There is a vbadvanced module and although it is made for an older chatbox version, it should work without any problem with the newest version. I have succesfully integrated the chatbox into vbadvanced and I think many others, too.

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Originally Posted by Ranger187 (Post 1678714)
Data loss to you is not any harm? That's what your reply implies. I know it's a chat, but I've also heard this god knows how many times... "I had something in the chat I needed." We all have done it. Just like you wipe your home computer, without fully ghosting it or backing up, thinking you pulled everything when OH CRAP..... That 1 file you didn't grab is gone. That's my only critical factor.

Ask yourself this, which is worse? Never being able to reproduce data, or being able to. If you lost 1 crucial document or the like, you will understand my reason. Other then that. Fdisk. ;)

In my opinion no mod should have its own backup option. What is it worth beeing able to restore the mod data, if you cannot restore your forum? Therefore everyone who cares about his data should do a full backup.

It does not matter if you are on shared hosting or how long a full backup takes. It is mandatory to do so. If your hosting package cannot handle it, you might need to move to a bigger package anyway.

For me it is just a chat box. Of course there will be valuable information from time to time, but it is still no reason to backup the messages. Most of the time it is just small talk without any deeper meaning or any importance. But this might be different for other sites. If a company misuses it as a conference room, the situation completely changes.

In my opinion there are other things to do first before developing a backup feature. Anyways, this is not up to me. I am not the developer. vbdev must decide whether he wants to invest his time to code that feature.

Ranger187 12-05-2008 02:41 AM

The backup/restore is easy. I've done it many times for the chatbox. It's 2 tables I think. But then again I know what I'm doing and how to do it. You have to realize a lot of people learn from their mistakes.

I doubt the sound option will be added, but he can now add it as a plugin/option if he wants with the new re-write.

VBDev 12-05-2008 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1678800)
In my opinion there are other things to do first before developing a backup feature. Anyways, this is not up to me. I am not the developer. vbdev must decide whether he wants to invest his time to code that feature.

lol Yep lots of my free time :D

Anyway you know the sound thing would in fact that hard to implement. Lots more easy than making a backup tool ;)

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Originally Posted by Ranger187 (Post 1678809)
The backup/restore is easy. I've done it many times for the chatbox. It's 2 tables I think. But then again I know what I'm doing and how to do it. You have to realize a lot of people learn from their mistakes.

I doubt the sound option will be added, but he can now add it as a plugin/option if he wants with the new re-write.

The problem with the backup is that exporting to a file would make a hugeeeeee file for somes forums. But exporting is not a problem, it's already done through the export feature in the archives.

However the import is what's causing problems coz of php timeout.

What I can say is that no I won't do it right now ! But why not in the future. It will depends of how the chatbox evolves, how I want to implement things and so on.

You know I develop the chatbox kinda only for fun but takes a huge amount aof time ! I don't own a forum at all, vB coding is just "a game" for me.

LCN2007 12-05-2008 02:26 PM

Anyone else have this error? It send me a error about evey 10 mins if the chat is activly being used.

Code:

Database error in vBulletin 3.7.2:

Invalid SQL:

        SELECT DISTINCT u.username,u.displaygroupid,u.userid,s.userid AS suserid,u.usergroupid
                      (u.options & 512) AS invisible
        FROM mgc_cb_evo_session AS cbs
        LEFT JOIN user AS u ON (cbs.userid=u.userid)
        LEFT JOIN session AS s ON (cbs.userid=s.userid)
        WHERE cbs.dateline>='1228493779' AND cbs.userid!=0;

MySQL Error  : FUNCTION u.usergroupid does not exist
Error Number  : 1305
Request Date  : Friday, December 5th 2008 @ 10:19:19 AM
Error Date    : Friday, December 5th 2008 @ 10:19:19 AM
Script        : http://www.sitename.net/forum/mgc_cb_evo_ajax.php
Referrer      : http://www.sitename.net/forum/index.php
IP Address    : 70.164.246.238
Username      : UserName
Classname    : vB_Database
MySQL Version : 5.0.51a-community


VBDev 12-05-2008 06:06 PM

Fix here : https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....postcount=2760

LCN2007 12-05-2008 06:23 PM

Thank you sir much appreciated im sure it was in this thread but after reading a ton of pages i just had to ask. I will apply the fix tonight when i get home.

Great chat thanks for your hard work.


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