When I add that to the end of the welcome_guest, it only puts a space in the welcome box at the bottom. I need the space on the outside of it. Also, when I put the <br /> tags under the $welcomeheaders in the navbar template, it adds the space, but when a user is logged in the extra space is still there.

Sorry, but I'm not sure what you meant before. Where exactly should I put the <br /> tags?

Put it where you want it. If you want space under the box, put it after the closing table tag.

In which template? I want an extra space under the box, but not when a user is logged in. If I do what I said above, when a user is logged in and the box isn't there, there is an extra space.

There is only one template used by this plugin... welcome_headers. You can add <br /> tags to any of the welcome messages you like in that template, just look for the proper location.

I see. Thank you, it worked. :)

I know, I'm trying to make it so google ads will show to some of the groups created by this hack. (post more often, never posted, etc)

I can't ever seem to clearly type what I'm thinking in my head, sorry.

Ted, it seems that the first thing Google reads up is the header and while having this installed. I was wondering if there is a way to disable this because I don't think its a good idea, you know what I'm saying?

I installed this this morning (vb 3.62) and everything went smooth, however it does not display the welcome message for unvalidated users awaiting moderation. I manually validate users on my board and do *not* use the auto validation by e-mail. Instead, the product is showing the message intended for validated users who have never posted.

I did customize the language in the validation welcome message.

Any ideas what might be causing this, or perhaps it is a bug?

Where is this version? I can only see the 3.6 version. Thanks - this is a nice mod.

if the message is there, Google will read it. The only alternative is to turn the message into an image and post that instead of readable text.