Do I just replace 'textarea' with $message_area? if not how would I customize the size of the area?

You replace the whole textarea with $message_area. It will put the vb editor there. It get costomized by user's defaults. You can also look at the origonal template to see how exactly it's put in.

thanks for the help - I kept looking for that form template thinking it would be located with other custom templates but it was farther down - never looked that far down - that could of elminated all this - thank you VERY much for your patience and help.

One last question on this....is there a way to get a text area box with out the whole editor? Im trying to ask members for a mailing address that only needs to be a couple of lines and would have no use for a whole editor.

Yes. Use the old text area but chane the name to something else. Make sure you add the new varable to the plug-in.

GREAT thanks!

Tried that but it hasnt worked, the vbeditor is there but whatever you put in it still dosent show, will have to take a longer look at it later when i get home from work

Thank you very much Abe this has got to be the most usefull and adaptable addition to any vbulletin forum out there ;)

One thing I would love to do is force the form to use a particular style rather than the default one that the forums are using, what would be the easiest way to archieve this?

I'm getting this error. Anyone got any idea?

"Fatal error: Unable to proceed with save while $errors array is not empty in class vB_DataManager_PM in /includes/class_dm.php on line 758"

Ahh I figured that one out. I was trying to PM the form, but my character limit was too small for the stuff it was trying to send.