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Paul M 10-29-2005 08:03 PM

Can't you do some of the little bits now. We still have things like the Hottest Hacks for vb3 and vb2 (!), but no vb3.5, surely you could swap the vb2 version for a 3.5 version pretty quickly (template edit, and change the forums it scans ?).

Xenon 10-31-2005 03:29 PM

admit it you just wanted to be on top of the list :p

007 10-31-2005 04:18 PM

Looking forward to seeing Vb.org 3.5! :)

I'm sure you have lots of porting to do, mainly the hack system. Good luck!

~007

Paul M 10-31-2005 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenon
admit it you just wanted to be on top of the list :p

LOL, well I wouldn't complain if I was :)

Erwin 11-01-2005 04:23 AM

Because we are nostalgic, we are going to downgrade to version 2.2.6. Now to find that ZIP file of mine...

Darkwaltz4 11-01-2005 04:28 AM

why stop there? :-p im sure you could find a 2.0.3 somewhere, im pretty sure i still have the original package we got waaaaay in the beginning, it was 2.0.6 :D
it would make an excellent and horrifying april fools joke if you ask me, although it WAS halloween, so maybe you could bank on the whole 'horrifying' part :-p

ChrisLM2001 11-01-2005 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubble #5
No one tells anyone else when to upgrade their site, so why should vborg be any different? Please let them use their own good judgment to do what they feel is best for their own site. Does anyone remember the story about the rabbit and the hare? I'm sure we can all be a little more patient while they pull their act together and get all of their ducks in a row. Mmmm... duck. Sounds like dinner :)

Actually vB.org has a duty to be on top of all code changes -- and in sync with vB.com. It's THE site for modders and stylists, THE front door for what isn't vB.com proper (with it's default skins/features).

It needs to be an inspiration and one that shows what modders and forum designers can do like nowhere else.

So yes, because the very nature of vB.org, folks here need to speak up and remind the staff -- where's the new vB version on this site? And when are you going to update the styles, too? Because you know even visitors hitting the frontpage will know the version isn't the same!

Chris

Xenon 11-01-2005 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwin
Because we are nostalgic, we are going to downgrade to version 2.2.6. Now to find that ZIP file of mine...

i found my 1.1.4 zip file ;)

Chris M 11-01-2005 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisLM2001
Actually vB.org has a duty to be on top of all code changes -- and in sync with vB.com. It's THE site for modders and stylists, THE front door for what isn't vB.com proper (with it's default skins/features).

It needs to be an inspiration and one that shows what modders and forum designers can do like nowhere else.

So yes, because the very nature of vB.org, folks here need to speak up and remind the staff -- where's the new vB version on this site? And when are you going to update the styles, too? Because you know even visitors hitting the frontpage will know the version isn't the same!

Chris

There are very few cosmestic changes between 3.0 and 3.5 - So "visitors hitting the frontpage" may be none-the-wiser ;)

Most 3.5 features are administration or posting enhancements, nothing more:)

As for our "duty" to upgrade - There are alot of modifications that people from this site want, and that this site needs to function - These are custom code that need to be re-written for this version, and that takes time :)

Chris

ChrisLM2001 11-02-2005 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris M
There are very few cosmestic changes between 3.0 and 3.5 - So "visitors hitting the frontpage" may be none-the-wiser ;)

Most 3.5 features are administration or posting enhancements, nothing more:)

As for our "duty" to upgrade - There are alot of modifications that people from this site want, and that this site needs to function - These are custom code that need to be re-written for this version, and that takes time :)

Chris

It's a multi site disease. :(

Chris

Neutral Singh 11-02-2005 06:51 AM

Quote:

These are custom code that need to be re-written for this version, and that takes time
Please take your time! we are eagarly awaiting the upgrade nonetheless. ;)

owenweb 11-03-2005 01:41 AM

Very cool!

Any chance these will be made public?

Darkwaltz4 11-03-2005 03:42 AM

LMAO, if you havent been following the discussion either here or everywhere else, the answer is yes, supposedly :D

theArchitect 11-11-2005 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkwaltz4
LMAO, if you havent been following the discussion either here or everywhere else, the answer is yes, supposedly :D

Just thought I would be a nuisance and bump this.

Paul M 11-12-2005 12:20 PM

It's a race, will .org upgrade before 3.6 is released .....

Marco van Herwaarden 11-12-2005 12:53 PM

We will go straight for 4.0, we are already testing.

Regs 11-12-2005 03:04 PM

Not that it is a big deal or anything, but I gotta say, the length of time this is taking is perplexing from a Jelsoft marketing point of view.

1.5 months since Gold rolled out and how many months beforehand to work with the betas?

Perhaps the staff here should approach Jelsoft and ask for some assistance of some kind?

Chris M 11-12-2005 03:29 PM

We have lives to live seperate from this site; We also have no need to upgrade just because the latest version rolls out of production...

We have many customisations to make and if we don't get them right in the hurry to conform to the latest market trend, we will get moaned at more for having errors and mistakes than if we take our time and ensure to the best of our ability that there aren't any...

It's not just as simple as "Upload new files, Use upgrade.php, Dance around for a while while it does it's business then return happy as larry and spread 3.5 Joy to eagerly awaiting people" ;)

It's more like "Download new files, create plugins, products and edit files to do what we need them to do, test them, test them again, try and break them, test them, upload them, use upgrade.php and wait for about 5 hours to get all posts and threads and users and this and that and the other updated, then upgrade current styles to work with 3.5, blah blah blah blah..."

It'll probably take somewhere between 12 and 24 hours for this site to be upgraded :)

And that's a low estimate ;)

Chris

Regs 11-12-2005 03:52 PM

Quote:

We have lives to live seperate from this site; We also have no need to upgrade just because the latest version rolls out of production...
Did I say anything about you not having a life?

At what point does that statement grow old? Is it still a good reason after 6 months? 1 year?

The fact that this new version was all about plugins and not having to hack core files and your assertion that this site has no need to upgrade just shows how far outta touch some of you are getting with the big picture.

I don't remember saying the upgrade here would be easy. I'm questioning now the seeming lack of preparedness for it and the "status quo" attitude. You guys need to be pushed now. Like it or not, you are a part of the marketing vehicle of a successful company. If you start to be a detriment rather than an asset to said company, well... let's just say that I would be a little more careful in stating "we also have no need to upgrade..."

:D

Paul M 11-12-2005 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris M
We have lives to live seperate from this site;

So do the rest of us. If the current staff/admins/whatever don't have the time then maybe they need more who do.

Marco van Herwaarden 11-12-2005 06:27 PM

If we didn't need to spend time on threads like this...........



:D :D

Brad 11-12-2005 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
The fact that this new version was all about plugins and not having to hack core files and your assertion that this site has no need to upgrade just shows how far outta touch some of you are getting with the big picture.

We stayed on version 2 long after 3 was the gold release. We run many modifications here, some of them the public doesn't even see because they are tools to help the staff moderate the forums. All of these things have to work before we go to 3.5.

I asure you, we are not sitting on our collective butts doing nothing just to jerk around the membership here. Things are taking longer then expected, 3.5 came out sooner then we expected, staff members have had to leave at times over the last month or so due to unexpected illness in the family or work related things.

Regs 11-13-2005 12:23 AM

Marco, if this thread here is what is keeping you from upgrading this site, perhaps you should bring on more staff.

Brad, the point I was making is that it appears that you guys were not prepared 1 iota in getting this site turned over. From the first beta release, I thought you guys (or someone else) would be working on updating your modifications to work.

Why can't the staff here go without some of the tools you have hacked in here for a short period of time? Is the core software that deficient that the built-in tools can not manage a site like this? Why not bring on more staff to help moderate? With 100,000 members, it seems you are short-staffed anyways as I can only identify 4 or 5 moderators moderating on a consistent basis.

This is a site full of talented coders whom I'm sure would be thrilled in helping port over some of your special hacks. Perhaps you guys should ask them for help?

Cheers,

~Regs.

Omega Prime 11-13-2005 01:08 AM

I say: let them do what they're doing and leave it at that. Surely, waiting several more weeks til they fully upgrade vb.org isn't gonna make things worse, right? I mean... sure, having quick editing might be great, but unless there's a timebomb that says "this forum will explode in 10 seconds unless you upgrade to 3.5", we should just wait it out the same way we all waited for 3.5 to be released ;)

Regs 11-13-2005 01:35 AM

OK, will do!

Cheers,

~Regs.

soniceffect 11-29-2005 07:48 PM

How long for 3.5 guys????? Personally I`m lookin forward to you`s upgrading as the navigation around the hacks ain`t exactly at it`s best at the moment. Found it great on 3.0 because of the way it was laid out on ther forums so lookin forward to the hack dbase. But also it ain`t exactly a good advertisement for vbulletin when most people have upgraded by now and the official flagship hack site ain`t...

Not a gripe, this is an excellent site, just a general observation and question that I`m sure others must be wondering again by now.

Wayne Luke 11-30-2005 02:18 AM

The official Flagship site is vBulletin.com just for the record.

Regs 11-30-2005 03:04 AM

Read closer Wayne.

Boofo 11-30-2005 03:14 AM

I read it closer and I saw what Wayne saw on that one.

soniceffect 12-04-2005 08:00 PM

And I`ve got news for ya`s ... I read it and I also saw what wayne did LMFAO ...

I do beleive that regs got what I meant though .... I just missed a word .... flagship hack site.....

What can I say ... never have been good with the keys after a few tins ;)

Paul M 12-04-2005 09:24 PM

I read it and saw this ;

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniceffect
But also it ain`t exactly a good advertisement for vbulletin when most people have upgraded by now and the official flagship hack site ain`t...

:)

TyleR 12-05-2005 02:42 AM

@scioneffect: Thats because not all, but most run on vanilla vB install's, so it's much easier..here in this case, vB.org has custom code to convert over to 3.5, aswell as code new features into the hack's system to make finding certain modifications easier to find..

- Tyler

soniceffect 12-05-2005 01:07 PM

yeah granted m8 ..... Was just after a bit of info thats all ;) ...

---MAD--- 12-05-2005 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniceffect
yeah granted m8 ..... Was just after a bit of info thats all ;) ...

its not an easy job to just upgrade in vb.org's case because they have alot of modifications made to it and nearly all of them will not work at all with 3.5 so it will take ALOT of work.

Chris M 12-05-2005 03:05 PM

Tyler - You're showing up as unlicenced... :ermm:

Dunno why you are though - Did you change your email?

Chris

Marco van Herwaarden 12-05-2005 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris M
Tyler - You're showing up as unlicenced... :ermm:

Dunno why you are though - Did you change your email?

Chris

I think you should check some other threads where Tyler posted in the last few days. :(

TyleR 12-05-2005 08:15 PM

yea, had a flop just before i went to bed..all fixed now :p

Corriewf 12-05-2005 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TyleR
yea, had a flop just before i went to bed..all fixed now :p

Hacker! :p

Chris M 12-05-2005 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TyleR
yea, had a flop just before i went to bed..all fixed now :p

You'll break your bed if you flop on it :p

Chris

Corriewf 12-05-2005 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris M
You'll break your bed if you flop on it :p

Chris

Depends on how drunk he is and subsequently the woman he brings home with him.... ;)


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