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Xplorer4x4 09-25-2005 02:15 AM

What exactly is it this hack does? Could you explain it for us not so advanced users? :-\

T2DMan 09-25-2005 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplorer4x4
What exactly is it this hack does? Could you explain it for us not so advanced users? :-\

How about the following vBulletin Google Sitemap

Quote:

Why have a Google Site Map vBulletin:

Basically - Google site maps for vBulletin are a great way of getting pages found faster, therefore anchor text being found faster, therefore pages being ranked higher faster, and Google PR being attributed to pages faster and better.
  • With no use of the Google site map - just added heaps of new pages to a forum and very soon after Google found the main forum pages, yet to find all the threads
  • Google often spiders based on the Google PR of the site - the higher PR, the more often, earlier and deeper it seems to spider.
  • So if you are a low PR site, you can wait quite a few weeks for new content to be found by Google.
  • And even if you are a higher PR site, you can still wait quite a number of days for Google to find all the new pages that have been added.

So Google site maps can get new pages found faster and it is less dependant on the Google PR of your site as to how fast those pages are found and spidered (IMO).
  • Where Google ranks a page is a lot about Google PR and link text for that page. So once Google has found all those new pages - if those pages have a lot of link text/anchor text for certain important pages on your site, then those important pages will rank higher earlier.
  • You need to make sure that you have some good links from existing high PR pages to those new pages, and good html site maps, so Google will calculate in good PR for those pages you have created.
  • It is always one thing for a page to be cached by Google. It is quite something else for it to then be ranked high by Google.
So how about it - sounds like Google site maps are a good thing?
New version being tested at the moment... been a while. Sorry.

T2DMan 09-25-2005 02:45 AM

There are lots of url's on vbulletin and potential session id's and newpost/lastpost etc. Some spider versions of google sitemaps only show the url, not the ultimate 301'ed url.

There are a defined number of actual threads and forums etc that you actually want to search engines to cache and return on the SERP's.

So having a specific program that returns the correct url's based on an analysis of the database is a very clean way of doing things.

Xplorer4x4 09-26-2005 09:53 AM

So bassicly I run a chance of Google canceling my AdSence service for using a hack to increase my rankings?

T2DMan 09-26-2005 10:05 AM

woooo.Where did that come from???

Adwords promote linking schemes!

But vbseo url rewrites have nothing to do with that. And a Google site map has nothing to do with that.

The link vault is the only possible issue - totally separate scheme. Its Google that is not keen on linking schemes for linking purposes - nothing to do with adsense - they keep rather separate.

David_R 09-28-2005 10:37 AM

i submitted my map to google 2 weeks ago, should i rebuild everything again (new threads from last 2 weeks and submit again) ?
what should be done now.

sorry for lame question :(

KarateKid 09-29-2005 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David_R
i submitted my map to google 2 weeks ago, should i rebuild everything again (new threads from last 2 weeks and submit again) ?
what should be done now.

sorry for lame question :(

is there a new version coming, which also includes the vbseo functionality?

Regards,

Sebastian

krohnathlonman 09-29-2005 08:09 PM

I actually only put the archive threads in the sitemap ;) I use that other hack to forward all the spiders to my archive pages.

I then have ads and stuff on my archive pages....

Also I get that time error on every one of my sitemaps but I also have alot of big forums.....

ManagerJosh 09-30-2005 04:06 AM

Poorly written instructions to install....I'm having enormous difficulty installing.

ukbill69 10-01-2005 01:15 PM

Same here, very poor instrustions, uninstalling now, login not working, dont know what the hell it asks for the database user and pass, becuase thats within the config.php

require $base.'includes/config.php';

eXtremeTim 10-05-2005 05:57 AM

This hacks code was horrible on the back end. Google would not even follow the sitemap index file becuase of problems with it. Variables werent set to global where needed. Plus various other things everywhere.

2shae 10-05-2005 03:03 PM

it wont work if database name and username is the same on login :|

dutchbb 10-05-2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T2DMan
Per the check boxes this is not a plugin. It is an external program that you define parameters on the files then run via your browser.

Why did you post it in the plugin forum then?

michaelbenson 10-05-2005 03:11 PM

Whenever i try and input my database accounts details it keeps on insisting that they are incorrect even though i have quadruplally checked and rechecked them with those stored in my ./config.php file. Do i need to CHMOD some files or something like that to allow the Sitemap Creator to correctly identity what my account details are?

JJR512 10-05-2005 04:43 PM

Just want to confirm something:

Once I have generated the sitemaps with this hack, do I just need to submit the sitemap_vb_index.xml file to Google Sitemaps, or should I also submit one or all of the individual sitemapX.xml.gz files?

eXtremeTim 10-05-2005 07:44 PM

I wouldnt use the sitemap index file. With the problem it has google wont follow it. I redid this and got it all cleaned up and once I did and google grabbed the new sitemap file they wont leave my site alone now.

JJR512 10-05-2005 09:16 PM

So should I give Google the sitemap1.xml.gz, or sitemap2.xml.gz, or sitemap0.xml.gz? All three were created when I first ran this hack (just installed this morning and only run once). Actually, now that I look at it, the 0 file only seems to contain a URL to the home page, and the 2 file comes up as not being found, even though it's really there. So maybe I'll give it just the 1 file? Does it hurt to submit more than one, does it hurt if it can't find or access one of the submitted sitemaps if another works fine? Why are there multiple files, anyway?

eXtremeTim 10-05-2005 10:17 PM

You either have to use the index or submit every file that it makes.

Moparx 10-05-2005 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXtremeTim
This hacks code was horrible on the back end. Google would not even follow the sitemap index file becuase of problems with it. Variables werent set to global where needed. Plus various other things everywhere.

could you be more specific? my generated sitemap and index look identical to the examples given by google.

michaelbenson 10-06-2005 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelbenson
Whenever i try and input my database accounts details it keeps on insisting that they are incorrect even though i have quadruplally checked and rechecked them with those stored in my ./config.php file. Do i need to CHMOD some files or something like that to allow the Sitemap Creator to correctly identity what my account details are?

Anyone mind helping me out?

Moparx 10-06-2005 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelbenson
Anyone mind helping me out?

is the $v variable in vbsitemap-multi.php set to the following (since you run 3.5.0)?
$v='3.5';0;

michaelbenson 10-06-2005 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moparx
is the $v variable in vbsitemap-multi.php set to the following (since you run 3.5.0)?
$v='3.5';0;

I got confused i used to have it like so;

PHP Code:

$v='';3.5;//vBulletin version 3.5 (or leave as zero for v3.3-3.7) 


cynix2 10-16-2005 02:25 AM

chang it to this:

Code:

$v='3.5';//3.5;//vBulletin version 3.5 (or leave as zero for v3.3-3.7)
Installed and worked Excellent thanks T2Dman.

For other people out there this hack is excellent and T2D also offers some tips on upgrades here: http://forum.time2dine.co.nz/seo-vbu...-5-a-2460.html

Unexplained.tv 10-16-2005 03:31 AM

T2DMan usually releases decent hacks/mods/plugins and has good infromation, yet this hack/mod in its current state, is simply not worth having. I'll have to stay away from this, until an update is in place.

Vtec44 10-16-2005 03:32 AM

It's working great for me (vb3.5RC3)

cynix2 10-16-2005 03:34 AM

I was able to install and run this hack within 5 minutes and it did everything it was suposed to. Im still waiting on conformation from google that the site was indexed however I for one really recomend this hack.

Unexplained.tv 10-16-2005 06:12 PM

Yea, and as we will notice, you both are using the RC3- I wonder why so many people don't upgrade to the final "GOLD" release.... For some reason, it doesn't appear to work with the Gold release.

cynix2 10-16-2005 08:30 PM

Heh sorry im not using RC3 on this site, My main one is RC3 though. I did run into a proublem with the indes that this file created. appearently google didnt like the second timestamp that this hack made. Im going to be looking into why the syntax is wrong and get back to you.

*edit*

The only diffrence I have found between T2Dman's sitemap index and google's example is the second date. Appearently google only wants a year-month-day and not a YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SS-HH:MM:SS

Again I have resubmited this and im waiting to see if google likes it or not.

Vtec44 10-16-2005 11:24 PM

Google has been downloading the XML file from my site for the last 2 weeks. It seems like they download the file every 12 hours for about 5 days straight, then take a couple of days off, then go back to the routine again. So far, I'm seeing double the number of indexed page of my website on google. I'm not sure if it's because of this mod or my other submissions.

dastar 10-16-2005 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colejo
If this could be confirmed to work with Gold with the given instructions I'll be all over installing this. I showed my members the map on this site and they loved it.

http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/

I think you misunderstand what this hack actually does :)

Colejo 10-17-2005 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dastar
I think you misunderstand what this hack actually does :)

LOL. I didn't even read the whole thing. I was too busy looking for something that I wanted. LOL

Citizen 10-17-2005 02:49 AM

If my vb forum was domain.com/forum, would my config file look like this?

--------------------------------------
//directory that the vBulletin forum is in.
//comment out the one not applicable to your forum
//$base=""; // "" if in root
$base="forum/"; //if in the subdirectory forum

// root - home page
$http="http://domain.com";
--------------------------

Right?

cynix2 10-17-2005 02:53 AM

that should be correct yes. . . . . you could run it and if it dosnt work then ask?

Citizen 10-17-2005 03:20 AM

It worked.

Once I submit my sitemap to google, do I have to resubmit often or does it automatically update?

cynix2 10-17-2005 03:22 AM

Google checks it often but you need to remake it every so often.

Citizen 10-17-2005 03:29 AM

Thanks for the help, and I have one more problem.

It saves the files to:
http://domain.comdomain.com/sitemap_vb_index.xml

What did I do wrong?

cynix2 10-17-2005 03:36 AM

nothing give your domain to google and have them run it during their next passover.

Citizen 10-17-2005 03:58 AM

Look at the domain link there. It has the domain twice... the links in the sitemap are all domain.comdomain.com/... instead of just domain.com/...

cynix2 10-17-2005 04:32 AM

Dono, Sorry I didnt catch that but you might need to get T2Dman's help.

Citizen 10-17-2005 05:24 AM

Do the files need to be in the highest directory or in the public_html folder?


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