thats a very nice attutitude indeed leah... but not every1 has that enthusiasm...

Some great ideas here, on the first page, was it Neo that said something about a clan of hackers? I think that's an awesome idea and I'd love to see that happen, it would make for some amazing hacks, and some hacks being made faster and so on...

id hate to have a clan on here...

- miSt

I'm not sure "clan" is the right word. I don't know if any of you visit DeviantArt.com, but they have a project called Mosaics. Basically, someone posts a template, and then people work on a section of the template, and the result is a mosaic of a bunch of people's work.
http://www.deviantart.com/?tier=mosaics
I'm thinking something along those lines, where a bunch of people work on a "template" (that is, a hack idea) to produce a hack. It wouldn't be able to be as free-form as the mosaic idea, otherwise it would never get done and wouldn't work worth ++++, but you get the idea.

Six pages to comment on and my eyes are buggy. Or is that Mist's sig? ;)

1. I bought this board because of the great support. That's what sold me, at least. When the hacks were split off, and the support was split, I was worried. I would love more of a support forum. Most hackers have been wonderful, and I appreciate their help. But I think more of a support forum would be great for the hacks that do not have any support. I realize there is VB3 coming out, but I believe many people are going to keep their current version until the bugs are worked out and the hacks updated. Therefore, I hope support for the current hacks will be kept up to date.

2. I didn't post here except for help because I never interacted with members and mods otherwise. If you want a community, then we shoud treat it as such. For instance, The Lounge. What type of conversations do you want? Is it a place to talk to eachother as members? Maybe someone should take turns posting there to keep the chit chat going. [Great PC, Teck :p].

3. If you are going to rate the hacks, I hope it's in another forum. I'm not a kid and to read that my compliment isn't as valuable didn't sit right with me. One compliments the coding and the other compliments what it does. Personally I think it's just as important that someone enjoys what the hack does. I may not know how to do a hack, but I enjoy each hack that I install and appreciate the work that went into it, even if someone thinks the coding is 'messy'.

4. All this talk of clans and making people click on installed worries me. I may download a hack, and then find that it isn't right for me. I would like to have the choice on whether I want to say that I have this hack. When I hear about people not allowing hacks and splitting into clans, my only concern is that this board needs to have people come together. If I ask for help, but someone from a 'clan' isn't around, then I'm back where I started.

5. I do think that people get mighty petty on the hacks. We should be supportive of eachothers' efforts. I respect that the original author should be stated in an 'updated' hack, but here are two instances that need to be considered:

A. Someone makes a hack that honestly does not know of a 'simular' hack. The second hack is just as worthy of being published as the first. It may offer something different, that someone wants.

B. A hack was created over a year ago and the original author is no longer posting. What happens then? Can a person update the hack with a mention of the original authors' name? [like the Birthday in thread hack]. Or is it back to the request board?

I'm really starting to enjoy my time here, and try to come here through out the day. There are some great people here and I enjoy chatting with them. I can't cook, much less make a hack. But I hope my support as a member counts.

PS: Who else here want's to spank DrkFusions' avatar? :rolleyes:

one suggestion tubedogg that could make things interesting... when releasing a hack maybe allow two ppl to release it... ie:

when Sinecure and Xenon made the reason for edit hack... it was a combination of their two efforts... and thats great... im sure they both agree that it was a (let me emphasize) 'team effort'

so i would personally like to see an option for allowing the release of a hack to be a shared option where both users get equal credit (maybe hard) but perhaps both get credit in their profiles...

in this sense it would led to the future of team work and bringing the community closer... imo this would be a great idea... i know i would use this feature for helping hackers learn how to hack and it can be a 'feel good' type of things ;) just another of my opinions... regards...

oh plus the support issue may be resolved in some cases... two ppl are always better then one ;) just my ideas...

g-force2k2

g-force very right, that hack was a team effort :)
but now it's not easy to mak such hacks, because just one person can upload the newest version or edit it in the db (that was a problem i didn't think of. Ok now it's easy for me, because i'm a mod ;))

so i think your idea is very good for thos team hacks and also if someone else should upgrade hacks from original authors.

That's a good idea - a hack that has 2 or more authors, so when the install is clicked, it goes to both the authors' profiles.

that's also was i had in mind with the clan system.

a clan hack can be edited by all members of the clan (or the ones a clanleader allowed ;))

i still wouldn't like to have a clan system....

- miSt

I think something that would be good is some kind of "Links Directory" like they have @vB.com, except with a difference...

There would be a link in the user's profile to their Link entry/entries, and they could fill out a Site Description for the site, plus contact details, Site History, vBulletin Version, Number of Hacks Installed, and have a tiny thumbnail picture of a Site Screenshot...Then others can view their site profile contained within the Link Directory, and rate the site, and read up about it...

The Link Directory would then have categories, which you can add your Site Profile to...

:)

Satan

would be quite easy to do too ^ :D

- miSt

hey thats sounds like a great idea!!!

:D

Oh Chen...:)

Satan

Hi tubedogg (da expert),
Hi All....

I hestitated pretty much before writing this post....

While I sincerely CARE for vbulletin.org and should not miss the opportunity of saying what should be done to improve it, I am at the same time afraid of stepping on anyone's toes...

I will try my best, please forgive me if I am too harsh ..

1 - The forums on vbulletin.org are DEAD slow.... I take part on many many forums, and vbulletin.org is one of the slowest ....

now this is the problelm ... where is the solution I am proposing ???

Solution: Move vbulletin.org to faster and better connected servers ......

But who will cover the expenses ?? vbulletin.org does not place ads or banners on the forums pages ??? ........

Answer : I


I will tell you where to get this money from.....


Keep reading with me :

2 - sooo many requests stay not honoured for days and days till they are totally forgotten though the question really does not take more than a minute of any one of many hundreds of experts coming to this forum regularly and reading the request....

If you pay those that DO help, everybody will be faaaaaar more eager to help, especially, if you pay those that help you based on user evaluation of the helper....

again, I will tell you where you get this money from...


I will stop here with the problems and tell you the solutions to those....

Money...

and you can get lots of it ....

Look how many thousands of people come every month to this site vbulletin.org, and they take all the hacks they wish, and even often without saying thank you to the author of the hack who maybe spent many many long nights working on the hack....

For me, the hacks are THE ESSENCE of vbulletin, and Honestly, if I did not have access to those hacks, I would not be using vbulletin, but rather ANY of the many tens of similar FREE software available from any of the many scripts sites like Hotscripts.com


Let me be brief : we pay 85 dollars a year for the license of vbulletin..... would it be too much if we pay 10 dollars more to get access to vbulletin.org and all those great hacks ???

of course not...

that is less than one dollar per month...

If you think this is too much, imagine PPN or Logician spending the whole night working on a hack that you will download and use ....... Does not he deserve you invite him to a cup of coffee ??

well, that is it !!!

Make access to vbulletin.org and the hacks PAID..... 1 dollar per month or 10 dollars per year is a reasonable price for me...

That is my personal opinion..... and I hope you simply accept it as an opinion....

good god no... ill leave here faster than maurice greene on speed if the hacks are paid...

- miSt

hmm, i don't see the problem..
as i know vb.org runs on the same server as vb.com does.
and all pages loads very fast, so i think the speed problem is your ISP

ja vielleicht .... aber...

(yes maybe, but ..)

as I said I am on many forums and some others load much faster... It still could be my ISP...

What ISP are you with? I regularly get pages timing out and refusing to load here, I have a tendancy to think its my ISP though.

I use Tiscali, and never have any problems:)

Satan

I made a Links Directory :) I hope vb.org uses it lol

-Arunan

Me too!:)

Satan

I love spammed ham too : :bunny:

I think something new and interactive for vb.org will livein the place up.

-Arunan

Hmmm...We already have a Chat...

What did you have in mind?

Satan

New & Interactive?? On the web???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAAH!?!?!?!?!?

Thats a good one noX

:p

Satan

:)

Satan will improve vB.org? :)

You are all so funny I could kill again :)

:(
-Arunan

please become more serious, it's also a serous thread not the lounge ;)

@learner: German?
Also ich h?tte t-online anzubieten und keine probleme vom speed

Hallo Stephan ,

When I read the few posts above this, I could well understand why you wrote :

and I agree with you...

as to your question,
nein, ich bin kein Deutsch aber ich mag Deutsch. Ich wohne im Schweiz und ich hatte ein bisschen Deutsch im GB gelernt auch.

;-)

Also...Das ist prima!

Auch mag ich Deutsch, aber kann ich nur ein bisschen sprechen;)

@Erwin - Of course I will:D Im radical enough;)

Satan

Take a look at www.ubbdev.com and what they do, their' software is antique, but their' community is great. I'd be more than willing to join such an effort at vB.org. :)

Not to be rude to mods or admins, but I think they should become more active, after all they are the people who set a good impression on the community itself.

Like at ubbdev, there are constant updates, about technology, world etc and not just the script, this will make it a more enjoyable community, if you again see UBB Dev, there are active topics, and discussions every day, its because they ALOT to talk about other than just hacks. I know my pointless posts will reduce if this increases.

Again not to be rude, I appreciate all your work, but people are not going to be able to instantly notice that you helped me, or another, the main page is there to attract, you guys must attract and livin this place up.

My thoughts
-Arunan

i couldn't agree more...

Xenon is an excellent mod.. he's done so much on here ...

But the rest of the mods aren't very active at all..

PPN is the second most active but im sure he's busy helpin with vb3 :D

- miSt

Well Chen does have alot to do...

Sinecure and Steve Machol are pretty active...

Some though, like chrispadfield or eva2000 arent very active at all:(

SaintDog, Xenon & PPN are the most active:)

Satan

I'm active, but since I'm not a PHP programmer I'm afraid I'm not very useful with hacking question.

Hehe...But you are useful for interrogating for vB3 information:p

Satan

I have my uses - limited as they are! ;)

*uses powers of interrogation*

[high]* Chris M says to Steve - "Tell me all about vB3"...:devious:
[/high]

:p

@All - Why dont the admins integrate Arunan's "Advanced Links Directory" hack into vB.org, and modify it a bit?:)

Satan