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samiro 03-20-2011 08:07 AM
can i pay - one time ?
like here in VB - i dont want monthly payment

andrew.lee 03-20-2011 08:13 AM
The service is hosted - meaning we handle all of the load on our servers. This is why we charge a monthly fee. We don't have a downloadable version. Sorry.

samiro 03-22-2011 01:31 PM
ok - now i go to the free 15 days try. i need to put cradit card there.

how can i cancle the billing after 10 days for example
what is the link to cancle this ?
and - can i pay with paypal ?

andrew.lee 03-22-2011 04:52 PM
Unfortunately, no, we don't accept paypal. You can cancel your free trial at any time by logging into:
http://www.envolve.com/admin/

Click "My Sites", and the "Subscriptions". There is a "delete this site" button in the lower right hand corner.

samiro 03-22-2011 06:21 PM
thank you !

steve71 05-16-2011 11:22 PM
deleted.

MagiKelly 05-17-2011 08:22 PM
I have just re-activated this as I see the free version now allows for up to 25 users with a single sign in. The price being the addition of text adverts in the chat. this seems fair to me and is enough for me to come back to this.

I still think the pricing for the 75 user option is high but the free version is now enough for the meantime.

andrew.lee 05-17-2011 09:43 PM
@MagiKelly - Thanks so much for reactivating us. We really appreciate it.

dang3rzon3 06-02-2011 02:21 PM
there is a possibily to translate in italian language?
I selected the italian language in my area non Envolve site but the chat is display in english.
For example:

Chat with people on this site
This is you
4 people here..

etc..

And i have another question: How to use the vbulletin avatar o profile pics for the chat?

andrew.lee 06-02-2011 05:25 PM
Hello - we have not yet translated the chat into Italian unfortunately. However, if you would like to help us translate the interface, please send us an email at support [at] envolve dot com.

S3Ponline 06-07-2011 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew.lee (Post 2202762)
Hello - we have not yet translated the chat into Italian unfortunately. However, if you would like to help us translate the interface, please send us an email at support [at] envolve dot com.

Hey Andrew. I like the product but I have my own server that can handle hosting it.

Any way for a one time fee ?

andrew.lee 06-07-2011 08:52 PM
Sorry no, we're a hosted only solution. We do have a free version though for up to 25 concurrent users.

S3Ponline 06-08-2011 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew.lee (Post 2204760)
Sorry no, we're a hosted only solution. We do have a free version though for up to 25 concurrent users.
It looks good so far; however,

A.) I dont? like that it shows the Location of the users. A lot of our users wish to remain anonymous as much as possible and don?t want people knowing their general location.

B.) I like the guest feature functionality; however, I can?t use it because the registration doesn?t get them registered to our forum.

Is any of this possible in the paid version?

andrew.lee 06-08-2011 02:44 PM
Both of these are possible in both the free and paid versions! Check out the Options tab on our backend. Go to: http://www.envolve.com/admin (login, then click on your site)

S3Ponline 06-08-2011 05:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew.lee (Post 2205063)
Both of these are possible in both the free and paid versions! Check out the Options tab on our backend. Go to: http://www.envolve.com/admin (login, then click on your site)
Ah. I?m really liking it!

One last thing I don?t see. Members are asking for an ?invisible? feature that allows them to see who is online, but not let others see.

Is this possible?

andrew.lee 06-08-2011 05:35 PM
Unfortunately no, not at this time. User's can "turn off" the chat if they like though by using the options menu in the lower right.

andrew.lee 06-08-2011 05:40 PM
And we'd appreciate a rating / review once you've had a chance to play with it for a bit! Thanks

S3Ponline 06-08-2011 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew.lee (Post 2205160)
And we'd appreciate a rating / review once you've had a chance to play with it for a bit! Thanks
I love it so far. I wish there was a cheaper option though for a small forum. I?d like to keep 25 members, but remove the advertisement and be able to upgrade later as needed.

marksimon 06-08-2011 08:51 PM
I used the Envolve Chat for 3 month and liked it so far.
But there is ONE BIG PROBLEM with the chat...

If a new user registers and is not verified, he is able to connect to the chat.
The user does not have to verify per eMail and even if I moderate new users they can chat altough they are not activated by moderators or admin.
So the option in Envolve admin panel "guests have to register after 0 chatposts" is irrelevant, because after a registration they are no guests anymore.

So we can block or ban the user but if he opens the forum in a new tab or new browser he is able to chat again.

I have the vBulletion version 3.8.1. perhaps this could be the problem.

Does anybody of you has the same issue or a hint how I can fix it?
The Envolve support cannot help in this issue.

thanks,
Mark

S3Ponline 06-08-2011 09:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by marksimon (Post 2205234)
I used the Envolve Chat for 3 month and liked it so far.
But there is ONE BIG PROBLEM with the chat...

If a new user registers and is not verified, he is able to connect to the chat.
The user does not have to verify per eMail and even if I moderate new users they can chat altough they are not activated by moderators or admin.
So the option in Envolve admin panel "guests have to register after 0 chatposts" is irrelevant, because after a registration they are no guests anymore.

So we can block or ban the user but if he opens the forum in a new tab or new browser he is able to chat again.

I have the vBulletion version 3.8.1. perhaps this could be the problem.

Does anybody of you has the same issue or a hint how I can fix it?
The Envolve support cannot help in this issue.

thanks,
Mark
That?s interesting. That would certainly detract me from purchasing the product.

akoj 06-12-2011 09:22 PM
We are playing with this. Our users are really liking it.

I solved the issue of adding our supermods to the admin group by setting them as a secondary user of mods. The plugin really needs to add supermods as automatic admins.

Most importantly to our site though would be the ability to only allow users in the registered members group to chat. What are your plans on that?

sticky 06-13-2011 11:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by marksimon (Post 2205234)
I used the Envolve Chat for 3 month and liked it so far.
But there is ONE BIG PROBLEM with the chat...

If a new user registers and is not verified, he is able to connect to the chat.
The user does not have to verify per eMail and even if I moderate new users they can chat altough they are not activated by moderators or admin.
So the option in Envolve admin panel "guests have to register after 0 chatposts" is irrelevant, because after a registration they are no guests anymore.

So we can block or ban the user but if he opens the forum in a new tab or new browser he is able to chat again.

I have the vBulletion version 3.8.1. perhaps this could be the problem.

Does anybody of you has the same issue or a hint how I can fix it?
The Envolve support cannot help in this issue.

thanks,
Mark
That is a major issue.

I like this product, the way it functions and looks, but it is simply way too expensive.

There also do not seem to be enough options.

I'll wait until someone reproduces something similar with a one time fee.

akoj 06-14-2011 04:59 PM
OK, I am NOT in anyway shape or form a coder but by changing the integration xml to this code I was able to add Supermods in as an admin and block out newly registered, not approved members this way. It seems to have worked for me

changed this:
Code:
{
        $env_userInf = $vbulletin->userinfo;
        $env_isLoggedIn = $vbulletin->userinfo['userid'] > 0;
        $env_isAdmin = ($vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==6 || $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==7);
        $env_displayChat = ($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'everyone') ||
                (($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn) ||
                (($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'admins') && $env_isLoggedIn && $env_isAdmin);
To this:
Code:
{
        $env_userInf = $vbulletin->userinfo;
        $env_isLoggedIn = $vbulletin->userinfo['userid'] > 0;
        $env_isAdmin = ($vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==6 || $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==7 || $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==5);
        $env_displayChat = ($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'everyone') ||
                (($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==2) ||
(($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==6) ||
(($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==5) ||
(($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==16) ||
(($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==14) ||
(($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==10) ||
(($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==7) ||
                (($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'admins') && $env_isLoggedIn && $env_isAdmin);
You will probably want to define your own user groups in there. So far this seems to have done that trick

andrew.lee 06-14-2011 05:25 PM
Thanks for the enhancement Akoj! We're aiming to bring many, many more enhancements to the plugin as soon as we can, including the change you just made.

emailapphost 06-14-2011 08:04 PM
It looks good, and it worked instantly on our site creating instant chat-community. So I paid the USD 24 for a month.
However, not taking PayPal for a subscription service like that says scam all over. I feel uncomfortable having given you my cc details (fortunately on my secondary non-important cc).
But, the seriousness of your sincerity in this tread won me over.
Let us hope this works out for the best. :)

andrew.lee 06-14-2011 08:22 PM
Thanks for the vote of confidence : ) We don't accept paypal as the hassle of billing with Paypal is a pain and we haven't yet set up an automated system for it yet. We intend to add it in the future though.

S3Ponline 06-15-2011 02:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by akoj (Post 2207690)
OK, I am NOT in anyway shape or form a coder but by changing the integration xml to this code I was able to add Supermods in as an admin and block out newly registered, not approved members this way. It seems to have worked for me

changed this:
Code:
{
        $env_userInf = $vbulletin->userinfo;
        $env_isLoggedIn = $vbulletin->userinfo['userid'] > 0;
        $env_isAdmin = ($vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==6 || $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==7);
        $env_displayChat = ($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'everyone') ||
                (($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn) ||
                (($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'admins') && $env_isLoggedIn && $env_isAdmin);
To this:
Code:
{
        $env_userInf = $vbulletin->userinfo;
        $env_isLoggedIn = $vbulletin->userinfo['userid'] > 0;
        $env_isAdmin = ($vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==6 || $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==7 || $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==5);
        $env_displayChat = ($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'everyone') ||
                (($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==2) ||
(($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==6) ||
(($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==5) ||
(($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==16) ||
(($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==14) ||
(($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==10) ||
(($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'loggedin') && $env_isLoggedIn && $vbulletin->userinfo['usergroupid']==7) ||
                (($vbulletin->options['envolve_display_to'] == 'admins') && $env_isLoggedIn && $env_isAdmin);
You will probably want to define your own user groups in there. So far this seems to have done that trick
Ok, Neat. I?ll try this out. If this works then I may upgrade and pay :D

I also do not like that you guys don?t have auto withdraw from paypal

emailapphost 06-15-2011 05:12 AM
It looks good, and I much appreciate that Envolve contacted me personally to ensure me they are the real thing.

The issues I have now are:
- I want users for MY own forum, I do not like adding users to Envolve...
I want the sign-in to be tied to my forum, so I get more users.
- I also want the singup more viral, post to users Facebook wall and Twitter etc.
- I have 20+ subforums on my forum and will eventually want to have one chat for each forum, I assume this is possible? :)
- The price is to high, especially the high volume stuff. So I am still looking for alternatives.
But I might stick with Envolve if things work out well (and they look good for now).

Thanks.

Regards,
Hans

andrew.lee 06-15-2011 05:12 PM
Hi Hans -

Envolve is designed to let you have people sign into *your* forum and not into Envolve. You can turn this on very easily from our backend at http://www.envolve.com/admin. Just click on your site after you log in, and then click on "Options". Then choose "Redirect sign-in attempts to URL" and enter the URL of your sign-in page. (then click Save).

You can absolutely have subforums through Envolve. You just need to use our "grouping" feature:
http://www.envolve.com/api/user-grouping.html

We understand we are an expensive option. We are working hard to make sure we are the *best* option though and are worth the price.

Thanks for trying us out!

andrew.lee 07-06-2011 07:34 PM
Hi All -

We just updated our plugin to version 2.0. The new plugin is a major update from the previous version and addresses many of the complaints in this thread (as well as adds a number of new features).

Enhancements include:
-Support for Avatars / profile pictures
-Support for custom profile rollovers (we now link directly to your profile and have stats right in the rollovers)
-Ability to restrict chats to certain groups only
-Ability to grant administrator privileges to specific groups
-Ability to enable / disable chat on mobile site
-Ability to restrict chat to only certain sections of the site
-SSL support
-Search feature in list of people
-Vastly improved moderation controls -- timed banning, ban management

Bugs that were fixed:
-Chat no longer appears in manage attachments screen or other popups.
-Major speed improvements for large sites
-Chat does not (by default) display to users who have not been verified.

I'd encourage people who are already using Envolve to upgrade, and people who have used it and uninstalled to give it another shot. Feedback would be appreciated!

Note that we've increased the number of users allowed in our free plan to 25 users, and we've now given all site owners access to all of our futures, including, skinning, analytics, ssl, and all of our customization options.

Pvtiste 07-06-2011 08:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew.lee (Post 2217515)
Hi All -

We just updated our plugin to version 2.0. The new plugin is a major update from the previous version and addresses many of the complaints in this thread (as well as adds a number of new features).

Enhancements include:
-Support for Avatars / profile pictures
-Support for custom profile rollovers (we now link directly to your profile and have stats right in the rollovers)
-Ability to restrict chats to certain groups only
-Ability to grant administrator privileges to specific groups
-Ability to enable / disable chat on mobile site
-Ability to restrict chat to only certain sections of the site
-SSL support
-Search feature in list of people
-Vastly improved moderation controls -- timed banning, ban management

Bugs that were fixed:
-Chat no longer appears in manage attachments screen or other popups.
-Major speed improvements for large sites
-Chat does not (by default) display to users who have not been verified.

I'd encourage people who are already using Envolve to upgrade, and people who have used it and uninstalled to give it another shot. Feedback would be appreciated!

Note that we've increased the number of users allowed in our free plan to 25 users, and we've now given all site owners access to all of our futures, including, skinning, analytics, ssl, and all of our customization options.
Excellent news!!!

S S0DEN 07-07-2011 12:27 AM
Very good company here guys, we have been using them for months now. It is the b est virtual product we own and our community loves it.

Keep up the good work guys!

silpher 07-07-2011 02:39 AM
how to translate it?

S3Ponline 07-07-2011 03:40 AM
Not working on my site. I had the older version and it worked fine, but now it’s not showing up :(


EDIT: Nevermind. Got it. My error.

EDIT: Needs one more tweak. Right now I have it set where nobody can access it unless a member joins a public usergroup. Unfortunately, it seems that the default permissions override the new usergroup permissions. Can you tweak to fix this?

Pvtiste 07-07-2011 02:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by silpher (Post 2217626)
how to translate it?
+1 needed :)

About the chat : I am really happy !! I m using only for my staff and that's an amazing tool :)

andrew.lee 07-07-2011 11:00 PM
@SPOnline - I'm not sure I understand. Could you explain a bit more the problem you're having?

@PvTiste - We have translations already for a bunch of different languages. If we don't we also have an easy way for you to customize strings. Unfortunately that documentation isn't up on our website yet. Can you shoot an email to support@envolve.com and we'll send that info over?

S3Ponline 07-08-2011 12:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew.lee (Post 2217953)
@SPOnline - I'm not sure I understand. Could you explain a bit more the problem you're having?

@PvTiste - We have translations already for a bunch of different languages. If we don't we also have an easy way for you to customize strings. Unfortunately that documentation isn't up on our website yet. Can you shoot an email to support@envolve.com and we'll send that info over?
I have it so that the chat is not accessible by any usergroup, BUT a public joinable usergroup.

So people who want to the chat can access it. (I wish it was by user permission instead of the way it?s currently set).

When they join the usergroup that does have access, the usergroup doesn?t override the the default permission.

Let?s say we have a Usergroup called ?Registered Member? and a Usergroup called ?Envolve Chat?

The registered member doesn?t have access to the chat by default. They can click the public joinable custom group that ?should? enable them to now see the chat; however, it doesn?t.

Make sense?

thanks for looking it over!

Poppet 07-08-2011 12:24 AM
Installed and like it, so do the members.

andrew.lee 07-08-2011 12:58 AM
@s3ponline - I understand! I'll add a way to address this to our "wish list".

@Poppet - Happy to hear that! Could you give us a rating / review once you've had a chance to play with it a bit more?

S3Ponline 07-08-2011 10:02 PM
Well hopefully you can get it worked out soon :)


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