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filburt1 09-20-2006 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbr929rrerion
OK.. I have installed this on my 3.5 board, it seems to work so far, no errors, seems smooth..

Now.. I can go to the compose and send a mail to anyone at any email address as normal, but I am not receiving any emails. If I reply back or try to just send to my alias@mydomain.com I get a failure notice it cant be sent..

any help would be appreciated..

What is the exact text of the failure notice? Are you sure you have a catch-all account?

deathemperor 09-21-2006 10:06 AM

is it possible to get the vbms for vbulletin 3.0.x anywhere ?

filburt1 09-21-2006 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathemperor
is it possible to get the vbms for vbulletin 3.0.x anywhere ?

Attached.

deathemperor 09-21-2006 12:31 PM

great, that was quick, thanks

Wired1 09-22-2006 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent H
Honestly, if you're trying to go open-source, then trying to restrict the code to vBulletin license holders ONLY is a pretty fruitless effort.

I believe he means open souce as in the vBulletin community would help to build it for the vBulletin community.

The SPECIFIC community being the ones who have actually PAID for vBulletin. He doesn't want vBulletin pirates to have easy access to it. Yes, there's no doubt that eventually a paying vBulletin license holder will hand over the code to a pirate, but there's nothing wrong with discouraging them a bit.

Brent H 09-23-2006 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wired1
I believe he means open souce as in the vBulletin community would help to build it for the vBulletin community.

The SPECIFIC community being the ones who have actually PAID for vBulletin. He doesn't want vBulletin pirates to have easy access to it. Yes, there's no doubt that eventually a paying vBulletin license holder will hand over the code to a pirate, but there's nothing wrong with discouraging them a bit.

Understandable. However, it might be wise to choose a better place for trying to organize any reasonably sized group of people willing to fix and improve this.

Throwing some buggy code into a release forum here won't get anyone interested in helping. You need a centralized location to make plans from and a way to discuss various aspects of this thing in separate areas... That can't happen here and I doubt it will happen at all, based on the "gotta keep it away from people without vB!" attitude I see here. That seems selfish and counter productive. Is someone really going to obtain a hacked version of vBulletin because of this mod?

I don't see a problem at all with using the existing VBMS forum and organizing stuff from there. If you're really that paranoid about non vB owners seeing everything, throw a password on the forums, put the password in a PHP box here and away you go.

It's been two weeks since this was made "open source" and I haven't seen so much as one person saying "okay, let's get organized".

If I had any kind of coding ability, I'd be the first to step up and take this under my wing. I don't have that ability, but I do have the willingness to help and will do whatever it takes to get this working.

filburt1 09-23-2006 03:18 AM

You described the situation quite well, and I agree that it will help. Unfortunately, the solution of a password is secure at first but fails immediately once the password gets out.

I am working on connecting my site to vB.org to provide a casual authentication system, This way, the discussion can take place in its own forum, or whole set of forums (hell, maybe the existing forums currently only for customers), and still be restricted to vBulletin license holders.

Several fraudulent purchases of vBMS were made (stolen credit card, hacked PayPal account, etc.). I've also seen literally hundreds of pirated vBulletin forum installations. Finally, vBMS, or at least its concept of providing administration-free web mail to forum users, is popular and often-requested. I have no doubt that it is the correct decision to insist that only those most likely to own vBulletin licenses can access the product. As you note, the only problem is balancing this need of protecting both vBMS and vBulletin while still making it easy for as many people as possible to collaborate on the project.

Brent H 09-23-2006 03:38 AM

^^
Well said :)

I'm glad to hear that efforts are still being made. It's hard work to maintain something of this size on one's own, so I congratulate you on what you've accomplished so far. If there's any way I can help, any way at all, let me know and I'll be happy to assist.

MPDev 09-27-2006 12:07 PM

I have this running on my 3.6 system (installed under 3.5) with some minor modifications.

line 74 in vbms_new.php:

Code:

if (!empty($_POST['action']))
line 31 in vbms_class_mail_message.php:

Code:

define("VBMS_CRLF", "\n");
and I run the vbms_cron.php as a cron:

Code:

*/1 * * * * /usr/bin/wget -q http://www.mysite.com/forum/includes/cron/vbms_cron.php --delete-after
I'd be glad to pitch in where I could as time permits; our users have used this for some time with no problems and other than these few changes for 3.6, everything seems to be working fine now.

COBRAws 09-28-2006 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPDev
I have this running on my 3.6 system (installed under 3.5) with some minor modifications.

line 74 in vbms_new.php:

Code:

if (!empty($_POST['action']))
line 31 in vbms_class_mail_message.php:

Code:

define("VBMS_CRLF", "\n");
and I run the vbms_cron.php as a cron:

Code:

*/1 * * * * /usr/bin/wget -q http://www.mysite.com/forum/includes/cron/vbms_cron.php --delete-after
I'd be glad to pitch in where I could as time permits; our users have used this for some time with no problems and other than these few changes for 3.6, everything seems to be working fine now.

are those all the changes? Thanks

darkblade25 09-28-2006 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPDev
I have this running on my 3.6 system (installed under 3.5) with some minor modifications.

line 74 in vbms_new.php:

Code:

if (!empty($_POST['action']))
line 31 in vbms_class_mail_message.php:

Code:

define("VBMS_CRLF", "\n");
and I run the vbms_cron.php as a cron:

Code:

*/1 * * * * /usr/bin/wget -q http://www.mysite.com/forum/includes/cron/vbms_cron.php --delete-after
I'd be glad to pitch in where I could as time permits; our users have used this for some time with no problems and other than these few changes for 3.6, everything seems to be working fine now.

Is that all the changes that you made and does it run without any bugs? I want to put this in my site too.

filburt1 09-28-2006 02:43 PM

<i>Very</i> strange that changing the VBMS_CRLF constant from \r\n to \n would work; IIRC, the RFC requires a CRLF (hence the name of the constant) instead of just a newline character.

But hey, that's why this is open-source, right?

darkblade25 09-28-2006 04:54 PM

So I am assuming it works. Rihgt?

FireLighter 09-28-2006 11:05 PM

This is great: progress! However does this solve the installation problems? I too would love to use this, but will be patient if necessary. Thanks for this amazing modification and for providing it to the community for free!

I look forward to see more as time goes on,
-Josh

COBRAws 09-29-2006 10:34 PM

Any confirmation that with MPDev's final edit vBMS is finally a Functional product?

Thanks

Kingzor 09-30-2006 06:10 PM

Installer working for 3.6 yet? Would like to finally get a working product that I paid for.

kall 09-30-2006 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingzor
Installer working for 3.6 yet? Would like to finally get a working product that I paid for.

You didn't pay for a working 3.6 version, as that has never been offered.

The purpose of this thread is to allow a group (or individual) effort to get vBMS to 3.6.x working status.

ianwilcox 10-01-2006 11:33 PM

How is this progressing , Who is now devloping this modifcation :)

kall 10-02-2006 04:15 AM

The community is.. or, that is what is intended by Filburt releasing it here.

You could even work on it! :D

MPDev 10-02-2006 01:09 PM

Without the change to the CRLF, the email wasn't being sent as HTML - the headers were being sent as part of the text message.

So far, everything is working on my 3.6 installation with no complaints from my users; however, as I said, I installed under 3.5 originally, so I haven't had the opportunity to try the installer under 3.6.

I did have a problem during the upgrade process from 3.5 to 3.6 and I had to clear out the xml files from the includes/xml directory (except for vB defaults). I never tracked down which XML file it was that was interfering with the upgrade; but once I was upgraded I moved the other XML files back and all was well.

Kingzor 10-02-2006 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kall
You didn't pay for a working 3.6 version, as that has never been offered.

I payed for this when 3.0.x was the major flavor with promise's of upgrades being free.
Thats like saying ok you paid for xxxx antivirus BUT you dont get any updates to the virus definitions.

Edit:
Heres a even better one

Its like paying for vbull, but you dont get any updates.

COBRAws 10-02-2006 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kall
You didn't pay for a working 3.6 version, as that has never been offered.

The purpose of this thread is to allow a group (or individual) effort to get vBMS to 3.6.x working status.

well, i paid for a 3.5 and was never released. I thought this thread was for a working 3.5 vbms not 3.6

Appart from this, can some vborg Staff member update the original release with the updated? Because I dont see anywhere a link to download the working one...

kall 10-02-2006 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingzor
I payed for this when 3.0.x was the major flavor with promise's of upgrades being free.
Thats like saying ok you paid for xxxx antivirus BUT you dont get any updates to the virus definitions.

Edit:
Heres a even better one

Its like paying for vbull, but you dont get any updates.

No, it isn't.

It *would* be, if you purchased vB under a clearly spelt out condition that you wouldn't receive updates.

filburt1 10-02-2006 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COBRAws
well, i paid for a 3.5 and was never released. I thought this thread was for a working 3.5 vbms not 3.6

Appart from this, can some vborg Staff member update the original release with the updated? Because I dont see anywhere a link to download the working one...

If somebody compiles a final working version, I'll add it.

filburt1 10-02-2006 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingzor
I payed for this when 3.0.x was the major flavor with promise's of upgrades being free.
Thats like saying ok you paid for xxxx antivirus BUT you dont get any updates to the virus definitions.

Edit:
Heres a even better one

Its like paying for vbull, but you dont get any updates.

That's what happens already. You need to pay $30 a year, or $85.

COBRAws 10-10-2006 01:14 AM

Any progress on this? Its the same as the day it was "released".
Thank you.

filburt1 10-10-2006 01:23 AM

You'll note the last several posts already discuss changes that seem to fix all known issues.

BCC 10-10-2006 10:59 AM

Im Very Intrested in Getting this Modification for 3.6.0, I Have Read the Comments from Other Users, and Understand a the Problems Here for 3.6.0 Use, Is it Possible for Me to Pay Some to Port this Hack for my Personal Use? As I Need this ASAP?

Wired1 10-11-2006 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCC
Im Very Intrested in Getting this Modification for 3.6.0, I Have Read the Comments from Other Users, and Understand a the Problems Here for 3.6.0 Use, Is it Possible for Me to Pay Some to Port this Hack for my Personal Use? As I Need this ASAP?

1. Please don't type in all caps.
2. No one can be paid to port this, as that is specifically against the open source release constraints that filburt noted IN THE FIRST POST when he transferred this from closed to open source.

If someone does update the code with the fixes, I'll throw it up on my test server and see how it goes. Offhand, I wonder if this could be merged w/ google's gmail for domain thing (which I've only read a bit about)

ShadowWeaver 10-18-2006 09:58 AM

is anyone actually working on that thing? ;)

PoetJA-1975 10-18-2006 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filburt1
You'll note the last several posts already discuss changes that seem to fix all known issues.

Release: 05. Sep 2006
Installs: 38
Last Update: Never
Rating: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2006/10/6.gif

3.5.4 is my friend - This modification seems heaven-scented... Should I bother?

Jacquii.

COBRAws 10-19-2006 10:36 PM

this hack is now lost, always was imho... damn

Brent H 10-22-2006 05:39 AM

I'm a bit disappointed as well... Maybe DChapman will save the day with ZointsMail ;)

I may not be a coder, but as I said a couple pages back - I'm more than willing to do what I can to make sure this thing gets updated. Nothing seems to have been accomplished and a more optimal place for development has not been created, despite the author's claims that he was working something out.

Killsparer 10-23-2006 09:38 AM

But according to this post, there doesn't seem to be much work left:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....4&postcount=89

"Just" a working 3.6 installation and the above mentioned changes.

dieselpowered 10-26-2006 06:09 AM

I must be honest, this is exactly what I need...once a stable version is available I am all over this!!

whiteeagle0 10-27-2006 01:49 AM

will the mail system hack work with vbulletin 3.6.2

Blackhat 10-28-2006 04:26 PM

I dont think so. I get this error when trying to install on my 3.6.0 test site
Quote:

Database error in vBulletin 3.6.0:

Invalid SQL:
SELECT phrasetypeid, title, product
FROM vb3_phrasetype
WHERE phrasetypeid IN (500);

MySQL Error : Unknown column 'phrasetypeid' in 'field list'
Error Number : 1054
Date : Saturday, October 28th 2006 @ 01:25:28 PM
Script : http://www.wwwwww.no/admincp/vbms_install.php
Referrer :
IP Address : 85.165.161.211
Username : admin
Classname : vb_database

noreturn 10-29-2006 12:12 AM

Many people are asking about it working on 3.6x. Yet I am still wondering if it installs and works on 3.4 (or 3.5) as that it what it was being developed for and paid for at that time of development. Does any one know for certain if this is installing and also working on 3.5 (or not)?

And I suppose I should add this question to this to be more precise.....If it is installing and working on 3.5, is it with (or without) those edits shown that were done to get it to work for 3.6 posted by MPDev two pages back? Or are those edits ONLY for 3.6?

Thank You

COBRAws 10-29-2006 04:46 PM

Ok, now I have this question... as this is getting NOWHERE, like I always said, the zip was NEVER updated with the code fixes posted here, and this is OPEN SOURCE, now, I am not able to pay someone else to fix it and port it right?

So.... should I go to paypal and start a buyer complaint noting the things I've said above, or should I be resigned waiting for a magical coder to fix this? Because, when I am being nailed, I can be a VERY annoying and I can find plenty of time to be annoy.

Someone just clear my thoughts out please, at least the open source and paid request for update point

Thank you

noreturn 11-02-2006 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filburt1
Yes, that is a holdover bug from this version. It's an easy fix though; in vbms_installation_resources.xml, just remove the step that adds that cron job.

Could you please tell me what line numbers to remove from the file you mentioned. Or exactly what the code reads that should be removed.

Thanks
noreturn


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