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ronoxQ 06-01-2006 06:26 PM

This mod is currently designed to tune in to vBulletin forums. Therefore, it is a vBulletin mod.

TruthElixirX 06-01-2006 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronoxQ
This mod is currently designed to tune in to vBulletin forums. Therefore, it is a vBulletin mod.

I didnt' see anyone disagree with this fact.

The point that is being made here is this:

You cannot use this board to recruit testing for a mod that is going to go pay only. It is some what like IPB did. Got people to test 2.0 for free, thne started charging for it. Nto the same, but similiar.

I think things might go differently if a free/lite version was to be released as well.

j883376 06-01-2006 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthElixirX
I didnt' see anyone disagree with this fact.

The point that is being made here is this:

You cannot use this board to recruit testing for a mod that is going to go pay only. It is some what like IPB did. Got people to test 2.0 for free, thne started charging for it. Nto the same, but similiar.

I think things might go differently if a free/lite version was to be released as well.

I seriously would love to know, why is everybody hellbent on the idea that vB Space is going to pay only. It has been stated MANY MANY times that its going to BE free and STAY free.

FlyBoy73 06-01-2006 06:34 PM

I guess we need to determine what exactly "commercial" is in this case and maybe some others.

If what they are offering is actually free, though members can make money using it, is that commercial? I wouldn't think so...

I mean, to compare... I have used hacks that help me interface into other paid scripts.. Those hacks were not considered commercial, even though I actually have paid for the other scripts that they were helping me to use with my vb forums.

I'm not here to be argumentative, and like I have said, I probably won't be using (at least at this point) any centralized system, but if the question about the original thread is because it was commercial, I don't exactly see it, especially since it evolved...

PS. Though it was not directed at me, I definitely don't think Jelsoft cares only about the money and nothing else.. Just like I don't think coders that charge for hacks are bad, etc.. I think there should be a commercial directory here, even if they have to pay to it, but that is slightly off-topic. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by j883376
I seriously would love to know, why is everybody hellbent on the idea that vB Space is going to pay only. It has been stated MANY MANY times that its going to BE free and STAY free.

Actually, it is not only going to be free using the centralized system they have setup - it has the potential to be profitable to people with adsense accounts who's members use their system.

rabidkevin 06-01-2006 06:36 PM

After previewing the demo, this is totally not what I was looking for :/
This is like linking a users profile to myspace. I don't feel as though hundreds of thousands of people will surf thru the communities on your portal site to join other communities. Thanks for your time and I hope to see a stand alone product from anyone in the near future.

ronoxQ 06-01-2006 06:42 PM

It's free right now. And that's how it'll stay.

j883376 06-01-2006 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyBoy73
Actually, it is not only going to be free using the centralized system they have setup - it has the potential to be profitable to people with adsense accounts who's members use their system.

Free and commercial are two totally different things.

vB Space will cost people nothing. Yes, some money will be made via Adsense, but you guys are getting this all for free, why whine that they will make a bit of money for all their hard work?

There have been plenty of hacks on here that have been released as free with 1 or 2 total features, but you can't get all of the features unless you pay like $10. vB Space is going to be 100% free.

TruthElixirX 06-01-2006 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronoxQ
It's free right now. And that's how it'll stay.

What in the world is going on then? Is this a compeltely different thing then what Danny.VBT was working on? Because I used ot chat with him in IRC and back then plans were 1.0 free, 2.0 paid, and then I saw a slow transition to paid only.

*sigh* I guess I'm just confused.

j883376 06-01-2006 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthElixirX
What in the world is going on then? Is this a compeltely different thing then what Danny.VBT was working on? Because I used ot chat with him in IRC and back then plans were 1.0 free, 2.0 paid, and then I saw a slow transition to paid only.

*sigh* I guess I'm just confused.

Yes, this is completely different. Theres no plan for a version 1.0 and 2.0 with 2.0 being paid.

TruthElixirX 06-01-2006 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j883376
Yes, this is completely different. Theres no plan for a version 1.0 and 2.0 with 2.0 being paid.

And with that I bow out of this discussion with my tail between me legs.

FlyBoy73 06-01-2006 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j883376
Free and commercial are two totally different things.

vB Space will cost people nothing. Yes, some money will be made via Adsense, but you guys are getting this all for free, why whine that they will make a bit of money for all their hard work?

There have been plenty of hacks on here that have been released as free with 1 or 2 total features, but you can't get all of the features unless you pay like $10. vB Space is going to be 100% free.

You should read my message rather than just quoting it. You are preaching to the wrong person, son.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthElixirX
What in the world is going on then? Is this a compeltely different thing then what Danny.VBT was working on? Because I used ot chat with him in IRC and back then plans were 1.0 free, 2.0 paid, and then I saw a slow transition to paid only.

*sigh* I guess I'm just confused.

Another reason why the original vBSpace thread should be brought back. There are a lot of people who have no idea what has transpired in the last couple of days.

rabidkevin 06-01-2006 06:48 PM

Basically they talked about there being a stand alone VBspace product for close to a year, and just now disclose this information. Discussion has always been in the sense of it being a product we install alone on our system. In my view these are 2 completely different worlds. The modification to our own personal site is minimal, while this "75,000 and count growing lines of code" is merely your own website portal. I'm sure myspace has hundreds of thousands of lines of code, too. Of course Im just repeating what others have said already so sorry about that. Do a lot of people agree after seeing the demo that this is not what they expected or wanted from vbspace?

criscokid 06-01-2006 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabidkevin
After previewing the demo, this is totally not what I was looking for :/
This is like linking a users profile to myspace. I don't feel as though hundreds of thousands of people will surf thru the communities on your portal site to join other communities. Thanks for your time and I hope to see a stand alone product from anyone in the near future.

I have to agree with you. Being a 'centralised application' it'll probably put people (my target audience) off joining my site.

SuperFly 06-01-2006 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razasharp
Can somone fill me in please...

Was the thread removed because it was a commerical product? (If so fair enough).

Also, there's talk abuot the profiles not actually being hosted on the sites own server...? but they just re-direct to this hack authors own servers? If so thats crap! I'd never allow anything like that on my site - I'd rather pay a coder to do a custom job than send traffic to someone else.

Why?

Less strain on your server....plus no management needed for it.

FlyBoy73 06-01-2006 06:52 PM

"I've got Opterons.. I'm not afraid..." :p

jon75 06-01-2006 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFly
Why?

Less strain on your server....plus no management needed for it.

And we should all just go with activeboard.com or something like that, right? After all, we wouldn't want any management involved...

@rabidkevin
I compleatly agree with you.

Razasharp 06-01-2006 06:56 PM

I couldn't quote a post that was deleted - but I had a quick read of the system and must say I'm really dissapointed.

We all thought we were getting a hack for OUR forums, not some hack that helps build the database of someone elses site. If they had been honest from day one maybe I'd feel differently but it does feel like we've been led on a bit.

I still wouldn't use the system even if I knew how it was going to work, because I'm not the slightest bit interested in partnering with someone else, sending them my memberbase which I've worked really hard to build.

If they wanted to make money out of the hack they should have just made it commercial and charged for it. I don't like what they've done and it does feel like they've used vborg, and I'm not surprised the thread has been deleted.

SuperFly 06-01-2006 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon75
And we should all just go with activeboard.com or something like that, right? After all, we wouldn't want any management involved...


Sorry

you know there are some admins, who like the idea of hacks, but are afraid because they wouldn't know what to do if something went wrong, and this way its like basically a fast, easy, non hassle service.

Also, i love how your first post is here, not suspicious at all.

Zachery 06-01-2006 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFly
Sorry

you know there are some admins, who like the idea of hacks, but are afraid because they wouldn't know what to do if something went wrong, and this way its like basically a fast, easy, non hassle service.

Also, i love how your first post is here, not suspicious at all.

You do know posts are not counted in lots of the forums :p

vBintense 06-01-2006 07:03 PM

It is a nice system, for them. But it will be a fast and furious fad with any real community owner.

As members go there and leave your community due to they found bigger one, and as this company sokes in all the profits from your toils.

I have already started to toy with php to make one, due to I need a local solution not something to hinder my comunity.

Razasharp 06-01-2006 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBintense
It is a nice system, for them. But it will be a fast and furious fad with any real community owner.

As members go there and leave your community due to they found bigger one, and as this company sokes in all the profits from your toils.

I have already started to toy with php to make one, due to I need a local solution not something to hinder my comunity.

I very much agree with you!

Please keep us posted on such a hack and if you need any testers I'm up for it! :) (And thanks for considering giving us what we really wanted)

amykhar 06-01-2006 07:12 PM

Gang, my closure of this thread is not a vote of approval or dispproval for this modification.

The original thread was moved by the mod author pending staff discussion. Any further questions you have about the mod itself can now be discussed at its forum at http://www.theadminzone.com/forums/f...play.php?f=185

Any further threads on this subject will be immediately closed.

Thanks for understanding

Amy


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