Does that say 15 seconds? Server load 7.85?! I only get server loads that high on MediaWiki pages (and I have no idea why, hopefully they reduced queries in the PHP 5 versions).

With respect to the realtime pagecompressor, some hosts do not have gzip enabled on their servers, and do not offer php.ini access to turn this on. Is the pagecompressor mod a decent alternative for these users, or does its effect on server load make it recommended to not use anything in these cases?

Also, I have been writing a hack that definitely needs its own table in the database. The hack adds 1 query to pages it's used on. It was suggested to me to instead save the database table as an array in a datastore field. I fear that some users may end up with hundreds of rows in their tables, and "querying" arrays does not have the same simplicity as MySQL. How much additional memory usage would you say is comparable to 1 MySQL query?

My forum executes 16 queries and i have 32 hacks installed (the majority are template edits only).

Page generated in 0.25615096 seconds (93.69% PHP - 6.31% MySQL) with 16 queries
DEBUG Mode OFF | GZIP ON (level 1) | 4.52 : 3.22 : 2.78

Is that ok?

How are you seeing this info, I dont see this on any page exept when I open a post, & it never tells me how many queries.?

I have 2 whole plugins. VBimagehost and Subforum display manager.

I have heard some major horror stories about VBshout.

Great thread.... please someone clean up the not needed posts about the morel issue. Now I run 3.5.4. The forum is running fine so I am not touching a thing to go to the latest release.

But I have turned on my micro stats (didn't know what they were used for before now)

I am on a shared server with godaddy and have noticed that the pages some times load slowly. Perhaps it is not my site but on godaddys end.

on my forum page my micro stats says the following

Page generated in 0.83442 seconds with 16 queries (1 queries for uncached templates) [Server Loads: 4.27 4.53 : 4.98]
Uncached templates: adv_gallery_imagebit (3)

how do I cash that template... I am going to poke around.. I will prob find the answer but typ that server load is 5 to 7

Also how can I determin exactly what mod causes the server load?

Last one post in this thread someone asked about the setting on update thread view or something like that but where is that setting, what should that value be and how does that help?

WOW tons of useful info here but just not enough directions to use it all. Like for instance this talk about GZIP where does one find that I've searched the admincp and can not find anything there for it. Also the Page refresh feature where is that?
And this talk about DBUG where the heck is that as well?
Thanks for the help

vbShout + add to all pages mod = CRASH! I have a lot of issues with vbShout. If you dont use the addons for it i think you will be ok. Also vbSEO used to crash my server constantly b/c there are LOTS of inifinite loops in the way it modifies the htaccess with certain setups.

Ok I found the option for Gzip and its set to 1. But I still do not see debug or any of refresh rate adjustment. I have VBshout flatline installed at my forum and it runs without a hitch no errors to report and users love it I normally have about 20 people talking in there at peak times. System load is still a bit higher than I would like in the 2 range but the site loads incredibly fast so I can't complain that much.
I also recently had the Vbshout2.0 installed and that was causing all types of problems on my board.

the mods i have installed are here

was at 74 but now its at 38

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/search.php?searchid=4842994


i dont know how many queries and what the speed is like but my forum is

www.basslineuk.com/forum

I read some where that if the server has this turned off by default, you should turn the compression to 3.

No, you shouldn't anything OVER 1 is a waste of processing power. The difference between compression level 1 and compression level 9 is .6 - .06 % on average.

Ok thanks Zach. :)

I know the default compression level of the command line gzip is 6, how does that differ from compressing pages on the fly?

When you're gziping something at the command line you're probaling doing so for a one time reason and compressing it for a move, 6 is a good number for this. However the compression difference between 1-6 could vary depending on the file type you want to compress.

Compression level 1 gets the job done on html / css very well, any higher is a waste.

Man, I added something its craped on me. Its so slow. I have PhotoPost, vbGarage, Downloads, Support and Sr Classifieds. Its kinda slow

thanks for all those that have responded to this thread. I've been very much hack happy on my dev forum but very strict and stringent as to what the needs are for the production forum.

I have about 18 products installed. here's what comes up from the debug setting. where does the memory usage come from? Is that number too high?

added vbbmicrostats and came up with:

Quote:

Page generated in 0.16144395 seconds (28.47% PHP - 71.53% MySQL) with 12 queries Users: 1 (1 members and 0 guests) | 3,434.49KB Used | GZIP ON (level 1) | 3.18 : 3.85 : 3.59 | Uncached Templates: None

Okay

How about VB Inferno Pro Shout (Lite), how does this compare with the old vbshout in terms of bandwidth usage?

AO

VBadvanced!

Not sure about anyone else. But, i tried installing VBadvanced on three seperate occasions and each time it dramatically slows down my website. Once i remove VBadvanced, my server is back to normal.

I think you're just seeing things...

By the way, just how bad on server load is vB Shout (and Lite)? Oh, and I think the Inactive User Reminder Email thing is pretty harsh on the server load as well. And your inbox.

is not it far easier then to simply rename the forum folder, and upload a full fresh copy of the most stable current version of vb to the forum folder and only install the necessary hacks?


Can you ever imagine our friend finding his way out of 200 hacks ?

I have 9 mods. Do you think that is a lot? I'm afraid to add a bank, cash system to my forum for some reason..............do they tie up a lot of resources?

how can we know how many queries is running why loading a page ?

Enable debug mode.

where do you do that?

Add:

to your config.php file.

Can someone look at my forum: www.LaredoForums.com

I seem to be having the same problem as many of the people here. Can someone tell me what to do make my forum faster. This problem has been very frustrating for me. Thanks in advance.

Forum page:

Page generated in 5.71096 seconds with 38 queries (3 queries for uncached templates) [Server Loads: 2.38 2.00 : 2.03]
Uncached templates: banner (1)
Uncached templates: banner_b (1)
Uncached templates: hbanner (1)

HOme page:

Page generated in 7.13451 seconds with 37 queries (6 queries for uncached templates) [Server Loads: 1.56 1.88 : 1.99]
Uncached templates: adv_portal_rotator (1)
Uncached templates: adv_portal_topposters (1)
Uncached templates: banner (1)
Uncached templates: banner_b (1)
Uncached templates: hbanner (1)
Uncached templates: top_posters (10)

I just turned on debugging and noticed that loading vbgarage.php is 34 queries.

Once the debug mode is on, what exactly am I looking for?

it seems like alot of administrators did not really care about performance, template-caching and page-generation-times before this thread ;)

If anybody wants his site analysed and optimized (template-caching ect) feel free to contact me :)

this is what i'd like to know too

hey everyone i have this problem where an old hack i installed keeps posting threads on my forum (the daily news one) and somehow it doesnt appear in my plugins, how can i remove this other then from the admin cp under plugins? will deleting the folder via FTP remove it?

Maybe try looking under "Scheduled Tasks".

Are you sure it's not an RSS Feed?