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nitro 02-09-2006 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad
The vB1 hack forums are only viewable by the staff. When Stefan says 'archive' he's talking about our private archives. :)

Then I would consider that more than just being removed from forum home ;)

Glad I voted a wholehearted "no" a little while ago then. Theres still hacks in vb2 that are useful I have just updated one used another that also has v3 info in the thread, and can see another that is sat not doing anything, waiting to be lifted.

rjordan 02-09-2006 09:32 AM

Again, I would not remove v2 related categories until JelSoft stops allowing v2 to be downloaded. Once that happens, I do not think anyone can really argue that it should be set read-only for a while and then archived.

who is chris c 02-09-2006 08:30 PM

i didnt realize when he said no it was private staff archives and not public i say keep them public even tho i voted for archiving them

Corriewf 02-09-2006 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad
The vB1 hack forums are only viewable by the staff. When Stefan says 'archive' he's talking about our private archives. :)

This poll is not valid as that wasnt mentioned beforehand. With this in mind, I would change my vote from no to HELL NO! ;)

Xenon 02-10-2006 08:48 AM

@Brad: really?
i thought they are browsable by everyone?

*confused*

TruthElixirX 02-10-2006 11:14 AM

No.. I was wondering what vB 1 archives you were reffering to. :p

Snake 02-10-2006 01:30 PM

Just get rid of the vB2 section but keep the vB3.0 section 'cause there might be people who are still running v3.0. :)

tnguy3n 02-10-2006 06:39 PM

I'm still running vB 3.0, but I stopped releasing hacks/mods for this version since majority of ppl switched to vb 3.5. :rolleyes:

Brad 02-10-2006 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenon
@Brad: really?
i thought they are browsable by everyone?

*confused*

Hmm they might be, I just assumed they where staff only because they are hidden.

Paul M 02-10-2006 06:46 PM

So how do people view them ?

Xenon 02-12-2006 08:04 PM

there was a link to them i am sure ^^

Logikos 02-12-2006 09:07 PM

@The Staff. Theres no link point to the archive. You have the Forum is Active status set to no. It won't appear if set to no, but remains accessible if the forum's URL is known, and if you search all open forums.

Every now and then I get some search results from this catogory. :)
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=31

Though this link is not viewable anywhere on vBulletin.org. Maybe you should make it viewable like vB.com has there archive forums set. At the very bottom in its own forum. :)

+buG 02-13-2006 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princeton
yes, archive .... I would suggest going all the way and archive 3.0 -- soon we will have vbulletin 4.0 :D

wha?!

bgray 02-13-2006 09:22 AM

At the very least I think the hacks should remain as an archive reference.

simon. 02-13-2006 09:59 AM

Why do people still use VB 2.x anyway?

MRGTB 02-13-2006 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon.
Why do people still use VB 2.x anyway?

I guess some people still like it, I don't use it but still like it. Because everything is template driven makes it very easy to customize. Plus some people like the less features as an easy to use no frills board that still kicks the ass out of phpBB and most other boards out there.

Also it very fast at loading pages. It may lack what vB 3 has to offer, but lets not forget its still a kick ass board compared to a lot out there and very fast to boot.

simon. 02-13-2006 02:17 PM

Ah i see thank you Gary Bolton :)

MRGTB 02-13-2006 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon.
Ah i see thank you Gary Bolton :)

do I know you?

kira 03-18-2006 11:41 PM

Sorry, kinda late for this thread but I only just saw it. Perhaps not surprising, since I'm also late in upgrading to vb 3!

Yep, I still use vb 2. Only for a few more days, admittedly, but still. Vb2 has been chugging along and was perfectly satisfactory for my smallish/mediumish-sized community. I have been very reluctant to change since it's been hacked pretty heavily with some things that are STILL not available for vb3 (interactive stories, most of all). Also, I've been too busy to update everything.

All this said, I'm finally making the leap to the latest version, because I know it's more powerful and the plugin system is sexier than anything I've ever seen (with certain exceptions!).

Really, it's no skin off anyone's nose to keep v2 topics here. If for no other reason, because Jelsoft supports v2. But there are other reasons: some hacks were never ported, and could give coders some ideas; most importantly, there ARE some of us lingering v2 users who need hacking and other customization advice.

Why on earth are many v3 users so callously anxious to deny even the few remaining vb2 users a useful resource? The forums collapse for the very purpose of letting folks ignore stuff they don't need/want to see. It's not taking anything away from the community -- to the contrary, it's a helpful reminder of just how amazing a system vBulletin is, that even older versions can remain powerful, flexible and functional community solutions.

Roms 03-19-2006 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kira
Sorry, kinda late for this thread but I only just saw it. Perhaps not surprising, since I'm also late in upgrading to vb 3!

Yep, I still use vb 2. Only for a few more days, admittedly, but still. Vb2 has been chugging along and was perfectly satisfactory for my smallish/mediumish-sized community. I have been very reluctant to change since it's been hacked pretty heavily with some things that are STILL not available for vb3 (interactive stories, most of all). Also, I've been too busy to update everything.

All this said, I'm finally making the leap to the latest version, because I know it's more powerful and the plugin system is sexier than anything I've ever seen (with certain exceptions!).

Really, it's no skin off anyone's nose to keep v2 topics here. If for no other reason, because Jelsoft supports v2. But there are other reasons: some hacks were never ported, and could give coders some ideas; most importantly, there ARE some of us lingering v2 users who need hacking and other customization advice.

Why on earth are many v3 users so callously anxious to deny even the few remaining vb2 users a useful resource? The forums collapse for the very purpose of letting folks ignore stuff they don't need/want to see. It's not taking anything away from the community -- to the contrary, it's a helpful reminder of just how amazing a system vBulletin is, that even older versions can remain powerful, flexible and functional community solutions.

Your designs are state of the art. I can see why you wouldn't change but believe me 3.5 will add Java, Ajax and much, much more... you think it's good now....... 2.0 is so, so far beind....... Archive and upgrade....

007 03-19-2006 05:33 AM

It used to be a royal pain to ugpgrade with vB2, and even vB3, but now with vB3.5, and careful strategic use of plugins, I can easily upgrade in a matter of minutes no problem.

I was looking back on my old vB2 (locked test site) and have really started to think how much I take vB3.5 for granted. It is so much better than vB2 and I would recommend it to everybody no matter the excuse they have. :)

Xenon 03-19-2006 08:49 PM

@007: vb2 was a quantum leap regarding vb1 ;)

just upgrading was easy during the vb1 times, because there hardly were any new versions ^^

beebi 04-25-2006 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tehste
i think you should think about removing the 3.0 category too :)
3.5 has AJAX!

yes yes

Blue-Inc 04-25-2006 04:21 PM

I don't really know about this, maybe if you archived the 2.0 forums. But I don't think the 3.0 forums should be archived until a later date.

firstrebel 04-25-2006 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon.
Why do people still use VB 2.x anyway?

Why do some people still use old versions of web browsers such as IE 3 and 4 and Netscape 3 and 4. I only have to look at my server access logs to see this.

Bob

FlyingDutchman 04-25-2006 08:18 PM

as long as the archive stays open, no problem
vbulletin 2 is just too good to totally abandon

personally i think vb2 is awesome and i like it more than vb3 & vb3.5 altogether :)

just keep the archive open and i'm ok with it :) - btw, i voted No :D

[edit]if there's one thing i hate, it must be people shouting out loud AJAX is so good... in fact, it can be usefull but in most applications it's just... bloated addition you don't need at all[/edit]

Danecookie 04-26-2006 12:37 AM

i wonder who uses that version now? O_o

rabidkevin 04-26-2006 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cle
No, as long vB2 is still available for download and fully supported by vB.com, I think it should stay there.

Agreed
Even though I never use it, and never will

Quillz 04-27-2006 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danecookie
i wonder who uses that version now? O_o

iLounge.com uses 2.3.9, the latest stable version of vB 2.x, last time I checked.

rabidkevin 04-27-2006 05:03 AM

this link speaks for itself...

http://www.google.com/search?hs=wPe&...22&btnG=Search

Winamp forums!

gothicuser 04-27-2006 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabidkevin
this link speaks for itself...

http://www.google.com/search?hs=wPe&...22&btnG=Search

Winamp forums!

Bit of an eye-opener.. :surprised::surprised:

FlyingDutchman 04-27-2006 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quillz
iLounge.com uses 2.3.9, the latest stable version of vB 2.x, last time I checked.

lol there's a message saying the forums are closed because they are upgrading :)

haha, anyway vb2 is faster, has enough features (with a couple of simple/small hacks added probably) and I can see no reason why vb3 would be better than vb2. vb3.5 is probably another story because that is a real leap forward, but more features means less speed, generally. and i &*^#$(@# on AJAX!

SaN-DeeP 04-27-2006 11:16 AM

Voted yes for removing vbulletin 2 cause its way to old.
but if there are many boards still using Vb version 2.x it wont be avisable to remove them.

DaPro 04-27-2006 01:34 PM

Wow that v2 used to look like...I remember the styling and all the fun times! But lets move on, onto the future 3.x and 3.5.x. Actually forget 3.x, 3.5.x owns all.

vBFreak 04-27-2006 09:40 PM

I'm also using 3.5, but I would recommend to throw all the vb2 stuff to a vb2 hacking forum, so people using vb2 can still get support for their hacks (if the coder is still there) or share their changes/improvements and if someone still wants to do that he/she can also even release hacks yet. At least old threads should be kept open for users to discuss and help themself, so everyone should be able to reply to these hack threads.

I think since there are boards out with vb2 and vb2 is still supported, updated and fixed by Jelsoft it's time is not yet over, so it should be possible to release hacks or get support for them at least until vb2 is officially outdated by Jelsoft.

I still like vb2, even if I'm not using it anymore but I think even if we're using 3.X and newer we should give vb2 users a chance, so I've voted for no.

Toky0 04-28-2006 05:08 AM

I personally think so long as Jelsoft supports vB2 then vb.org should too. Don't get rid of the vB2 forums.

:banana:

Deimos 05-01-2006 03:40 PM

I agree VB2 should be ditched, maybe VB should think about making it a free product, on the condition that no support would be offered, except by maybe, volunteers.

Darkfire122333 05-02-2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diemos
I agree VB2 should be ditched, maybe VB should think about making it a free product, on the condition that no support would be offered, except by maybe, volunteers.

I agree with this, it would make it alot betterbecuase then you would have 2.x revived, and maybe have a seperate forum for v2 s as a free board? would make it so that they would want to use the payed versions more and would be a great publicity hype :D

InsaneContender 05-02-2006 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkfire122333
I agree with this, it would make it alot betterbecuase then you would have 2.x revived, and maybe have a seperate forum for v2 s as a free board? would make it so that they would want to use the payed versions more and would be a great publicity hype :D

I doubt this would ever happen though, as vBulletin is pretty popular right now anyway. I mean, just look at the user-base! lol

I can see a lot of the vB2 stuff is suddenly gone, or is that just my imagination?

Darkfire122333 05-02-2006 10:38 PM

Well I do not think vBulletin should just drop something they spent alot of time creating, It is just a waste of time and thus making that time useless and could have been handled better. At least this way the board gets revived and can live a longer life as a remodeled board!


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