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Xtrato 01-01-2006 06:04 PM

Very true I could pay a guy $100 and he would have it done in a week tops..

Quote:

Originally Posted by xYarub
How long does it really take? I mean... I'm not trying to be an ass here... but other people create their very complicating hacks overnight. Hell, I write different scripts in a matter of a few hours. I just find it so hard to believe that it takes this long to release this hack. Maybe I'm being a little ignorant as I am not exactly sure what you're all putting into it, but it's a matter of adding and subtracting points while adding and subtracting options at the same time.

Maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about... but it seems like this has taken far longer than it should have. Either way, I'm still really anxious to see this hack finished. I just hope it happens soon.

If there is anything I can do to help out, please let me know. Even if it means paying for the test board license. =P


Revan 01-01-2006 06:52 PM

First of all, noone has paid us anything.
Secondly, I am still waiting for access to the test board, and Im waiting for normal days to resume before trying to organise a meet.
Beyond that, it shouldn't take too much work to get it done. I know you don't like the delays, so if you each want to pay people to make a 3.5 version or your own boards (ie not to release publically) then you are of course free to do so.

evenmonkeys 01-01-2006 07:07 PM

By access to the test board, do you mean access to their test board? The one that it's already been started on? Or do you mean a board inwhich you just need a valid license on? 'Cause like I said before... I'll help get this thing going even if it means buying the license for ya. I've got web hosting out the yinyang as well. Just let me know.

TyleR 01-01-2006 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xYarub
By access to the test board, do you mean access to their test board? The one that it's already been started on? Or do you mean a board inwhich you just need a valid license on? 'Cause like I said before... I'll help get this thing going even if it means buying the license for ya. I've got web hosting out the yinyang as well. Just let me know.

When Matt (Link14716) dropped the uCash/uShop project, he took his lisence elsewere..thus, the development team needs cash to set up a public development board..I know I don't have the funds at this point after all the holiday shopping I did. As for hosting, I believe Zachary has us covered on that end.

Revan, correct me if i'm wrong :p

- Tyler

djjeffa 01-01-2006 08:33 PM

ill donate $ if it helps get this done :)

Xplorer4x4 01-01-2006 09:18 PM

Did anyone learn a lesson with the situation with Link..?

TyleR 01-01-2006 09:21 PM

If anyone wish's to donate to the uCash/uShop Development fund (to mostly get an owned vBulletin Lisence for the development site), read Revan's post here.

djjeffa 01-01-2006 09:42 PM

$ sent :)

Revan 01-01-2006 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TyleR
When Matt (Link14716) dropped the uCash/uShop project, he took his lisence elsewere..thus, the development team needs cash to set up a public development board..I know I don't have the funds at this point after all the holiday shopping I did. As for hosting, I believe Zachary has us covered on that end.

Revan, correct me if i'm wrong :p

- Tyler

That pretty much covers it, yeah.
I also mean access as in Admin/FTP so that when licence is bought, I can set it up and get the ball rolling.
Im pretty sure he'll get his ass in gear once we actually have something to show.
Quote:

Originally Posted by djjeffa
$ sent :)

Thanks mate, every bit helps :)

trackpads 01-01-2006 11:11 PM

I will give you hosting if you need it and send some $ for the license.

Snake 01-02-2006 07:02 AM

Can someone just a install a special test board on your localhost for Revan for the uShop development? I guess that would be easier rather than purchasing a brand new vBulletin license.

Brandon Sheley 01-02-2006 07:30 AM

good to see this coming back around :)

Revan 01-02-2006 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aftermath
Can someone just a install a special test board on your localhost for Revan for the uShop development? I guess that would be easier rather than purchasing a brand new vBulletin license.

I have my own localhost, and so does every other member of the development team (I assume), the problem isn't that.
As it has been stated multiple times, we want a PUBLIC board on area51 to allow YOU people to hunt for bugs.

Snake 01-02-2006 10:41 AM

And why a public board? Does it have to be? You should know that it works on test boards, too. :p

Xplorer4x4 01-02-2006 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aftermath
And why a public board? Does it have to be? You should know that it works on test boards, too. :p

They feel the neeed to test it on public test board so YES. The thing baout a private test board is that with a few people testing it there not as likley to find it compared to testing it in private.

PEOPLE, Leave them alone and let them work. I am sure there just as anxious for the shop as the rest of us.

nir 01-02-2006 04:03 PM

thank you ,i love work your fine

TyleR 01-02-2006 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplorer4x4
They feel the neeed to test it on public test board so YES. The thing baout a private test board is that with a few people testing it there not as likley to find it compared to testing it in private.

Exactly..finding bug's isnt so easy as people might think..sometimes you're able to spot them, sometimes you're not..thats why we need a public test board so people will report any bugs on the site that they spot :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplorer4x4
PEOPLE, Leave them alone and let them work. I am sure there just as anxious for the shop as the rest of us.

You're right there ;)

- Tyler

vietkieu_cz 01-02-2006 04:20 PM

How far are you? When it's done :D?

Dan 01-02-2006 04:37 PM

It'll be done when it is done. If you want to speed it up in any way probably the best way would be to donate so we can get a public place to test and stuff.

Revan 01-02-2006 04:38 PM

I scheduled the meet for Saturday 01:00 GMT+1 (thouhgh I think I fecked up the dates in the PM, for some reason Windows set start of week to sunday), so things will start moving as far as development.
Release can't come before licence though, as that wouldn't be fair on the users.

Snake 01-02-2006 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan
It'll be done when it is done. If you want to speed it up in any way probably the best way would be to donate so we can get a public place to test and stuff.

So it's either wait or donate a few bucks, eh?

Revan 01-02-2006 05:52 PM

Its wait ,and if you want, donate, theres not enough funds to buy a licence yet. No special benefits or hidden betas or whatnot come to those that donate.

lordnex 01-02-2006 07:07 PM

I guess why buy your own board when others have offered test boards and even their own boards for access?

Revan 01-02-2006 07:18 PM

Well, we don't want some "leased" board where others would have access to the members area and could basically pull the plug on the board at any time. We want one that WE own.

dan35 01-03-2006 08:01 AM

How about this?

I have a spare owned inactive license, but it expired. If you want, I'm gonna lend you this license for 6 months for free, just need someone to donate $30 to renew it.

Moreover, I'm gonna donate the webhosting fees for 6 months by providing hosting for free.

Snake 01-03-2006 11:41 AM

That sounds like a good deal to me. Go go go! :D

Revan 01-03-2006 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan
We want one that WE own.

It's not that we don't appreciate the offers, we do, it's just that it's preferrable to have one we control.

[email protected] vbmenu_register("postmenu_863643", true); 01-03-2006 07:14 PM

is there a rough set date for the shop to be released?

Wordplay 01-04-2006 12:28 AM

great question that has never and probably will never be answered, until it's released.

nir 01-04-2006 01:53 AM

what with ushop ??when exited

TyleR 01-04-2006 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saint@t-og.net
is there a rough set date for the shop to be released?

No.

- Tyler

nir 01-04-2006 07:44 AM

what with ushop ??when exited

Reeve of shinra 01-04-2006 02:08 PM

I'm a little lost as to what the plan is going to be.

Quote:

It's not that we don't appreciate the offers, we do, it's just that it's preferrable to have one we control.
Who is "we" and what exactly happens to the liscence if three months down the road everyone is to busy and decides to leave the project... is that liscence then lost in limbo? Does a random developer get to take it?

As for beta testing, don't we have a beta testing forum for hacks here where users can download the files and install it and give it a run? I understand that this is a complex hack but I have no issues installing a beta on my live site and providing bug fixes for issues we come across, as well as some new actions for that matter that we are planning to develop.

We could, as suggested earlier in this thread, do the upgrade ourselves from the 3.0 version but if we can't release it for those who need it, then whats the point of doing so and for that matter, why waste the effort in doing the work that someone else already did it?

Revan 01-04-2006 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reeve of shinra
Who is "we"

Me, TyleR, PixelFx.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reeve of shinra
and what exactly happens to the liscence if three months down the road everyone is to busy and decides to leave the project... is that liscence then lost in limbo? Does a random developer get to take it?

Whoever decides to take over the project.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reeve of shinra
As for beta testing, don't we have a beta testing forum for hacks here where users can download the files and install it and give it a run? I understand that this is a complex hack but I have no issues installing a beta on my live site and providing bug fixes for issues we come across, as well as some new actions for that matter that we are planning to develop.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....6&postcount=71
Second part of this post.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reeve of shinra
We could, as suggested earlier in this thread, do the upgrade ourselves from the 3.0 version but if we can't release it for those who need it, then whats the point of doing so and for that matter, why waste the effort in doing the work that someone else already did it?

I said that because I didn't like the at the time rumblings about the delay of this project. I heard people talk big about donating large amounts of money, $200 and more, so far no such donation has been made. As such, there's gonna be a delay for public release.
Not only do we want a public privately owned test board, but we also want a more professional way of reporting and dealing with bugs than threads in a subforum here.

sidekick 01-04-2006 03:52 PM

hmmmm so any clue when are u guyz planning to release it, which month ?

Regs 01-04-2006 04:13 PM

Quote:

I said that because I didn't like the at the time rumblings about the delay of this project. I heard people talk big about donating large amounts of money, $200 and more, so far no such donation has been made. As such, there's gonna be a delay for public release.
So far, no one I've seen related to this project deserves my donation, it's as simple as that.

I've since spent my money elsewhere.

Good luck with your project and people skills.

Cheers,

~Regs.

Revan 01-04-2006 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
So far, no one I've seen related to this project deserves my donation, it's as simple as that.

I've since spent my money elsewhere.

Good luck with your project and people skills.

Cheers,

~Regs.

Sorry you feel that way.

Regs 01-04-2006 04:30 PM

No worries, as I said, good luck.

Reeve of shinra 01-04-2006 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan

So going by that post, is it safe to say then that the obvious errors have been weeded out and the port of this hack is ready to run on vb 3.5 for "phase 2"?

fly 01-04-2006 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan
I said that because I didn't like the at the time rumblings about the delay of this project. I heard people talk big about donating large amounts of money, $200 and more, so far no such donation has been made. As such, there's gonna be a delay for public release.

I donated some yesterday and more will come. Worst time of year to ask for donations tho. :P


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